PTA For Rifle With Interchangeable Barrels

[PaWNTANK]

Hi Guys,

What's the deal (PTA wise) for rifles that come with different calibre barrels?
Do you have to get a separate PTA for each barrel?
I was looking at a Sako Quad and CZ 455 that have interchangeable barrels.

Cheers

[bear foot bowhunter]

often thought about this my self with the h&r handy and the Rossi

[brett1868]

In NSW the "Barrel" isn't tracked, only the receiver / action so you only need the 1 PTA and nothing extra for additional barrels. My HTI is listed on the rego as .375 Cheytac though I also have the .416 & 50 conversion kits for it, same with the SRS being listed as .338 but also having a .308 conversion. I asked the shop and they can add the additional calibres to the registration if they stamp the barrels with a number. I'm not about to let anyone loose on a barrel with a hammer and stamp so I declined the offer.

[BRNOmod2]

Not that I have a switch barrel/calibre or plan on getting one, but wonder how it would work in WA where you can only buy ammo for calibres that are shown on your WA lic?
i.e. You had a Sako Quad with .22, .22WMR and .17 - All good until you go to buy ammo - unless all 3 calibres were listed on your WA lic you would struggle at any WA LGS to buy ammo for the calibres that weren't shown on your lic
Perhaps those WA forum member's who have a better grasp of our fun time WA licensing system may be able to explain for me (and others)

[Jack V]

In NSW the "Barrel" isn't tracked, only the receiver / action so you only need the 1 PTA and nothing extra for additional barrels. My HTI is listed on the rego as .375 Cheytac though I also have the .416 & 50 conversion kits for it, same with the SRS being listed as .338 but also having a .308 conversion. I asked the shop and they can add the additional calibres to the registration if they stamp the barrels with a number. I'm not about to let anyone loose on a barrel with a hammer and stamp so I declined the offer.

I have been inspected twice and both times they wanted to see the additional barrels and check the numbers as they appear on the rego papers . Stamping a number on a barrel with a punch set and small hammer will not do any harm to the barrel .
I am adding 308W to my 243 , 30-06 soon and my local smith says it's no big deal to add it to the existing rego for a fee that is. I will let him stamp the number on that way he knows it's all kosher .

[veep]

I have been inspected twice and both times they wanted to see the additional barrels and check the numbers as they appear on the rego papers.

You get a separate 'firearm' registration cert for each barrel do you?

I'm trying to remember if they even put calibre on the PTA for rimfire here in VIC

I have this vague recollection they don't...

[scrolllock]

I think you might be confusing that with 'genuine reason', not what it's chambered in.

I'll check a cert tonight, but I think on Cat A you don't have to put hunting/target shooting etc. like you must on a cat B.

But still yes to the calibre.

[Jack V]

I have been inspected twice and both times they wanted to see the additional barrels and check the numbers as they appear on the rego papers.

You get a separate 'firearm' registration cert for each barrel do you?

I'm trying to remember if they even put calibre on the PTA for rimfire here in VIC

I have this vague recollection they don't...

In NSW my rego papers have the frame details , and below that in another box the barrel details on the same page .
Mine was registered with the action at the same time so I'm not sure what they would do when you register a new additional barrel but I will find out soon when I add the new 308 barrel .

[Lorgar]

I think you might be confusing that with 'genuine reason', not what it's chambered in.

I'll check a cert tonight, but I think on Cat A you don't have to put hunting/target shooting etc. like you must on a cat B.

But still yes to the calibre.

This.

Just looked at the cert for my Annie, has "22RIMFIRE" on there.

I do recall the dealer saying no reason was needed when they did my PTA though.

[brett1868]

Checked my rego and the SRS and in the "Barrel Details" section has 2 registration numbers, 2 S/N's and 2 popular calibre names (338LAPMAG & 308WIN). I'll have to go check the barrels to see if anything is stamped on them as I don't remember seeing any numbers on them. To be safe I'd ensure that all barrels are listed on the rego papers so you don't have any issues come inspection time.

[Chronos]

In NSW the "Barrel" isn't tracked, only the receiver / action so you only need the 1 PTA and nothing extra for additional barrels. My HTI is listed on the rego as .375 Cheytac though I also have the .416 & 50 conversion kits for it, same with the SRS being listed as .338 but also having a .308 conversion. I asked the shop and they can add the additional calibres to the registration if they stamp the barrels with a number. I'm not about to let anyone loose on a barrel with a hammer and stamp so I declined the offer.

Actually I don't think that's correct brett

I had a .284W barrel made for a 7-08 chambered rifle, the gunsmith simply sent of a "change of caliber" form (which is stupid because both are 7mm caliber ) and FAR sent me a supplementary rego paper showing all the same details except with the new chamber listed but yes the new barrel has a number stamped, 3mm numbers, i don't think it would effect the chamber

Chronos

[Jack V]

Once there is two or more barrels they should have also sent a number for the original 284 barrel to identify between the two . Maybe things have changed ?
The FAR seems to have difficulty understanding the difference between calibre and cartridge . The small numbers are usually an in line gang stamp that most smiths have and it will have no effect on the internal dimensions of a barrel .

[Chronos]

Once there is two or more barrels they should have also sent a number for the original 284 barrel to identify between the two . Maybe things have changed ?
The FAR seems to have difficulty understanding the difference between calibre and cartridge . The small numbers are usually an in line gang stamp that most smiths have and it will have no effect on the internal dimensions of a barrel .

No mate. The original barrel is 7-08 and matches the original paperwork for the action, the additional barrel is .284W and has its own number and paperwork

Chronos

[1290]

Wasnt the NSW system covered elsethread...barrel is treated like a firearm, rego etc (NSW is special....in a different way to the WA type of special of course...) Brett, was the dealer in or out of NSW who wasnt too concerned about the extra barrel..??

In QLD, no doubt its a single purchase/single PTA,

Either submit your single PTA, with multiple chamberings listed, or ring your registry, or dealer to check, or even....spent a few minutes perusing these interesting volumes of your local horse manure ;

Weapons Act 1990
Weapons Regulation 1996
Weapons Categories Regulation 1997

[Lyam]

I had a .284W barrel made for a 7-08 chambered rifle, the gunsmith simply sent of a "change of caliber" form (which is stupid because both are 7mm caliber )

They really need to get their terminology correct and ask what cartridge firearm is chambered for.

I don't think any state currently does this.

[Jack V]

Once there is two or more barrels they should have also sent a number for the original 284 barrel to identify between the two . Maybe things have changed ?
The FAR seems to have difficulty understanding the difference between calibre and cartridge . The small numbers are usually an in line gang stamp that most smiths have and it will have no effect on the internal dimensions of a barrel .

No mate. The original barrel is 7-08 and matches the original paperwork for the action, the additional barrel is .284W and has its own number and paperwork

Chronos

My switch barrels have a number for every barrel including the original one .
The Police that inspected me wanted to see each barrel and check each number . What happens when the .284 barrel is on the gun ? How would they know which other barrel is the 7mm-08 for your gun . If it's legal then no worries I can see some advantages .
Maybe it's because mine were registered as multiple calibres right from the start and was never initially registered as a single calibre even though there was an original barrel and calibre way back . I guess it all comes down to what's on the rego papers and as long as that is reflected on the guns then your are ok.

[wayward]

A little odd needing to register just a barrel.

Dunno what you'd do with one without an action

[Bourt]

I'd guess it just boiled down like that because it's a 'firearm part'.

[Jack V]

A little odd needing to register just a barrel.

Dunno what you'd do with one without an action

I'm pretty sure in New Soviet Wales actions have to be registered that have no barrel , and barrels have to be registered that have no action if they are screwed and chambered to fit any action . That's how I understand it , happy to be proven wrong .

[wayward]

Not saying you were wrong.

Just seems stupid as I said. A barrel with no action would be more dangerous as a club than a "firearm" if that's what it's categories as legally.

[Jack V]

Not saying you were wrong.

Just seems stupid as I said. A barrel with no action would be more dangerous as a club than a "firearm" if that's what it's categories as legally.

I agree but I think they worry about parts that can be put together to make a working gun that would not be registered .
Like they are shipping of arms by the boat load to Iraq and Syria at our expense and handing them out willy nilly , to all and sundry but we are screwed down to tighter regulations than they impose on some terror groups not including the Kurds that is. . They way things are going the terrorist countries will be armed to the teeth by our money and we will be defenceless and broke . Have you noticed how not one anti has said anything about the arming of these people . UN is so anti gun with us but quite happy to see the Middle east getting boat loads of arms . Does that strike anyone as strange ?

[wayward]

Yeah I get the 'by parts' argument.

The action is the critical bit though. I'd argue that's enough. They don't agree obviously

[meateater]

UN is so anti gun with us but quite happy to see the Middle east getting boat loads of arms . Does that strike anyone as strange ?

You'll have seen some of the UN soldiers too. They're not carrying feather dusters around.