Who puts 2 stroke oil in their Diesel?

[Oldbloke]

I found this. http://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2strokeoilindiesel.php
everyone has an opinion.

[bigfellascott]

I found this. http://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2strokeoilindiesel.php
everyone has an opinion.

Yeah seen that one too, who knows - I think I read somewhere they used the 2 stoke @ 1000:1 ratio (can't remember if that's right or not but) All I can say for sure is my vehicle is quieter at idle and a bit smoother and quieter driving along too.

[on_one_wheel]

[ quote="Oldbloke"]I found this. http://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2strokeoilindiesel.php
everyone has an opinion.[/quote]

Ok I read that, but I just use the internet to shop for the answers im looking for.... so im going to ignore that one.

I preferred the article that said runninng 2 stroke in my diesel made me irresistible to female motorists.

[Oldbloke]

" I preferred the article that said runninng 2 stroke in my diesel made me irresistible to female motorists."
Could you please pm me the brand u are using urgently.

[Timb0]

Excellent tip Timbo, I will have to get down to the chemist and buy a syringe, that would make the whole process a lot easier I reckon. So how long have you been using 2 stroke in your diesel and what brand do you use?

I have been using Shell 2T nothing special and no reason, just what I put in the mower. I have been doing it for maybe 3-4 years now and never had an injector or pump problem on a model Hilux (2006) that seemed to be prone to them. ( I also change the oil every 5K filter 10K and fuel filter 10K- a lot more regular then Toyota recommends).

I have a large 50ml syringe so its just the one shot. I probably put a bit more in then I have to, but I get lazy and don't do it every tank.

Speaking of Shell, some fuel companies openly admit that low sulphur fuels can cause fuel system lubrication problems. I think Shell have something about how well they monitor the lubrication qualities of their fuel because of this.. or some rubbish.

[bigfellascott]

Excellent tip Timbo, I will have to get down to the chemist and buy a syringe, that would make the whole process a lot easier I reckon. So how long have you been using 2 stroke in your diesel and what brand do you use?

I have been using Shell 2T nothing special and no reason, just what I put in the mower. I have been doing it for maybe 3-4 years now and never had an injector or pump problem on a model Hilux (2006) that seemed to be prone to them. ( I also change the oil every 5K filter 10K and fuel filter 10K- a lot more regular then Toyota recommends).

I have a large 50ml syringe so its just the one shot. I probably put a bit more in then I have to, but I get lazy and don't do it every tank.

Speaking of Shell, some fuel companies openly admit that low sulphur fuels can cause fuel system lubrication problems. I think Shell have something about how well they monitor the lubrication qualities of their fuel because of this.. or some rubbish.

Thanks for that Timbo, is the Hilux a Common Rail? I can't see it hurting either mate, oil in oil type thing.

[Timb0]

Yes its a common rail. No I don't believe that a SMALL amount can hurt at all.
As for Old Blokes article. Sulphur was not removed from diesel because it can produce sulphuric acid. It was removed due to the global push to lower NOx (oxides of nitrogen referring to more than one gas) emissions. Sulphur can damage most of the catalytic converters used to try and lower NOx. Lowering sulphur of diesels allowed the use of the adblue ( urea based fluid, yes its in your piss) system in European trucks.
Sulphur is still in engine oils and can become acidic. It requires water however to produce sulphuric acid. Engines that have not been serviced for a long time and left sitting are more likely to produce higher levels of sulphuric acid in oils.

[Oldbloke]

Yeh it was just an artical I found, another opinin. No big deal.

[Timb0]

Yeh it was just an artical I found, another opinin. No big deal.

yeah i know you didn't write it mate.. and there's a smile for you too.

[Oldbloke]

just returning the favour. Lol

[North East]

I'm still not adding anything in to it...apart from alpine diesel mix in winter.

I never have in any of the diesels I have owned and have never had a problem.

[Die Judicii]

Damm,,,,,,,,, its done it to me again.

I just typed out a reply about my experience with petrol in the diesel tank by mistake.

Clicked on "submit",,,,, and the whole lot disappeared.
I had been kicked off,,, as in I had been timed out, and was thus logged out.

This has happened several time in the past.
I am sick of it,,,,,,,,,,,,, time for a dummy spit.

[KWhorenet]

[quote="Die Judicii"]Damm,,,,,,,,, its done it to me again.

Does clicking 'Back screen' arrow take you back to your post pre submit?

I've been lucky like this in the past and been able to retrieve a page of text I wouldn't have been bothered typing again

[Die Judicii]

Damm,,,,,,,,, its done it to me again.

Does clicking 'Back screen' arrow take you back to your post pre submit?

I've been lucky like this in the past and been able to retrieve a page of text I wouldn't have been bothered typing again

If you mean the "refresh" tab,,,,,,,,,, no it doesnt.
I tried that one other time when it happened.

A real pain in the R'se when you've done a comprehensive report or reply to something, and it just vaporises.

Thanks for the sugestion tho ol mate.

[Oldbloke]

For long winded comments I sometimes tap it out in a word documsnt first. That I copy past into the discussion. Just one additional way of doing it.

[Oldbloke]

For long winded comments I sometimes tap it out in a word documsnt first. That I copy past into the discussion. Just one additional way of doing it.

[KWhorenet]

Damm,,,,,,,,, its done it to me again.

Does clicking 'Back screen' arrow take you back to your post pre submit?

I've been lucky like this in the past and been able to retrieve a page of text I wouldn't have been bothered typing again

If you mean the "refresh" tab,,,,,,,,,, no it doesnt.:

Not refresh but if you are using a pc or laptop; the arrows up the top left corner to go back or forward. The arrow aiming to the left should take you back to previous page/screen. This has worked for me. If you start a test dummy post then press the back arrow then the forward arrow I think it keeps your typing in cache or temp file or something like that. Give that a crack

[bigfellascott]

I'm getting the BT-50 Remapped on Sunday, should go a lot better ofter Crispmods does his magic to it, also put a 3" TBE on it last week which has helped too, got a nice rumble about it at idle now and no major noise increase whilst cruising (slightly louder when on the peddle hard) but that's to be expected anyway.

Mine definitely runs quieter with the 2 stroke in it and is quieter when driving along.

[Chronos]

I'm getting the BT-50 Remapped on Sunday, should go a lot better ofter Crispmods does his magic to it, also put a 3" TBE on it last week which has helped too, got a nice rumble about it at idle now and no major noise increase whilst cruising (slightly louder when on the peddle hard) but that's to be expected anyway.

Mine definitely runs quieter with the 2 stroke in it and is quieter when driving along.

what model (engine spec) BT50 do you have mate?

i'm driving a 2006 B2500 (mechanical fuel pump) and have been thinking about an exhaust upgrade and a tune.

Chronos

[bigfellascott]

I'm getting the BT-50 Remapped on Sunday, should go a lot better ofter Crispmods does his magic to it, also put a 3" TBE on it last week which has helped too, got a nice rumble about it at idle now and no major noise increase whilst cruising (slightly louder when on the peddle hard) but that's to be expected anyway.

Mine definitely runs quieter with the 2 stroke in it and is quieter when driving along.

what model (engine spec) BT50 do you have mate?

i'm driving a 2006 B2500 (mechanical fuel pump) and have been thinking about an exhaust upgrade and a tune.

Chronos

Hey Steve, she's a 2006 BT-50 PJ 3L engine - Christian (Crispmods) is coming out on Sunday to do it for me. The muffler has definitely made a diff, its seems to have more torque through the rev range now and gets there quicker too, the other thing I think I have noticed is the engine seems to cool down quicker for some reason (not sure if that's the cooler weather/exhaust upgrade or 2 stroke oil) just something I've noticed lately after an hour or so the temp gauge is sitting on the C where as before it would still be warm?

All I know is the vehicle is running better after doing the exhaust and quieter with the 2 Stroke oil in it and once Christian does his thing it should be a lot nicer to drive too.

Have a bit of a look at some of the vids Christian has put on youtube to see some of the results he's achieved with his remapping service.

https://www.youtube.com/user/lolergramCCCP/videos

A Forum where people have had their vehicles tuned by Christian
http://4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic ... t=ecu+tune

His Ebay shop with contact details and what he offers etc
http://stores.ebay.com.au/CRISP-MODS

[Chronos]

I'm getting the BT-50 Remapped on Sunday, should go a lot better ofter Crispmods does his magic to it, also put a 3" TBE on it last week which has helped too, got a nice rumble about it at idle now and no major noise increase whilst cruising (slightly louder when on the peddle hard) but that's to be expected anyway.

Mine definitely runs quieter with the 2 stroke in it and is quieter when driving along.

what model (engine spec) BT50 do you have mate?

i'm driving a 2006 B2500 (mechanical fuel pump) and have been thinking about an exhaust upgrade and a tune.

Chronos

Hey Steve, she's a 2006 BT-50 PJ 3L engine - Christian (Crispmods) is coming out on Sunday to do it for me. The muffler has definitely made a diff, its seems to have more torque through the rev range now and gets there quicker too, the other thing I think I have noticed is the engine seems to cool down quicker for some reason (not sure if that's the cooler weather/exhaust upgrade or 2 stroke oil) just something I've noticed lately after an hour or so the temp gauge is sitting on the C where as before it would still be warm?

All I know is the vehicle is running better after doing the exhaust and quieter with the 2 Stroke oil in it and once Christian does his thing it should be a lot nicer to drive too.

Have a bit of a look at some of the vids Christian has put on youtube to see some of the results he's achieved with his remapping service.

https://www.youtube.com/user/lolergramCCCP/videos

A Forum where people have had their vehicles tuned by Christian
http://4wdaction.com.au/forum/search.ph ... &x=17&y=11

His Ebay shop with contact details and what he offers etc
http://stores.ebay.com.au/CRISP-MODS

cheers mate,

it's something i've been struggeling with for a while, to spend cash trying to get a little bit more out of the old truck or upgrade it. problem is a new truck will be much heavier so the performance will not be proportional to the power and torque advantage. then again throwing a few grand at a near on 10 year old dual cab isn't something i take lightly either

will see how the year goes and how many k's i end up doing

Chronos

[bigfellascott]

Not a prob Steve, I'm just over the lack lustre performance (if you can call it performance) that the BT has, I'm a bit like you mate when it comes to spending $$$ on cars etc, the good part about Christians work is if you don't like what he's done he will set it back to the original setting and it won't cost you a $$$ can't get a better offer than that I don't reckon.

As I said the exhaust upgrade had already made a good diff (I have a hill where I plant the foot and there is a speed limit sign that I hit 80k's on consistently (without fail each time I get 80km/h as I pass it, this time with the exhaust on I hit 95! it just pulled harder all the way as well instead of it wanting too but couldn't type thing.

The engine wants to perform but because of the limitation of the tune it can't, this is where Christian comes in and removed a lot of the limitations that are built in to the programming, my main reason for wanting this done is to make the whole vehicle more driveable as such, I'm not chasing huge HP gains or anything like that, just interested in getting a better torque response from the whole rev range and improve gear box response too (the torque converter request settings in these are woeful but can be greatly enhanced with some ECU remapping.

I'll let you know how it goes mate.

EDIT: What sort of K's on your rig mate? mines only got just over 100k on it so should have plenty of life in it yet (I furking hope so anyway) cos I ain't got endless supplies of money for upgrades every few years.

[Chronos]

Not a prob Steve, I'm just over the lack lustre performance (if you can call it performance) that the BT has, I'm a bit like you mate when it comes to spending $$$ on cars etc, the good part about Christians work is if you don't like what he's done he will set it back to the original setting and it won't cost you a $$$ can't get a better offer than that I don't reckon.

As I said the exhaust upgrade had already made a good diff (I have a hill where I plant the foot and there is a speed limit sign that I hit 80k's on consistently (without fail each time I get 80km/h as I pass it, this time with the exhaust on I hit 95! it just pulled harder all the way as well instead of it wanting too but couldn't type thing.

The engine wants to perform but because of the limitation of the tune it can't, this is where Christian comes in and removed a lot of the limitations that are built in to the programming, my main reason for wanting this done is to make the whole vehicle more driveable as such, I'm not chasing huge HP gains or anything like that, just interested in getting a better torque response from the whole rev range and improve gear box response too (the torque converter request settings in these are woeful but can be greatly enhanced with some ECU remapping.

I'll let you know how it goes mate.

EDIT: What sort of K's on your rig mate? mines only got just over 100k on it so should have plenty of life in it yet (I furking hope so anyway) cos I ain't got endless supplies of money for upgrades every few years.

Mines a Feb 2006 model, I bought it in 2012 with 60k on it, now 105k. The little 2.5 turbo goes ok but as I said its light, no air bags etc. I think when I bought it I looked around and it was 400kg lighter than a current (at the time) hilux.

Thing is when I throw a wife, 2 dogs, fridge, rifles, camping gear and 60l of water it suffers and a 3" exhaust would help keep it in 5th a bit more and help fuel consumption which jumps from 10.5's to 12l/100kms.

Being mechanical fuel pump a simple tune will boost it across the range once some pipes go on but I've been down this road before and it's a slippery slope. Next it's custom manifolds, turbo upgrades, suspension etc and you've spent 10k on a vehicle that's worth $10k.

Anyway, I'm off now to buy a new whipper snipper and blower, hmmm. Husky or shindiawa?

Chronos.

[bigfellascott]

Not a prob Steve, I'm just over the lack lustre performance (if you can call it performance) that the BT has, I'm a bit like you mate when it comes to spending $$$ on cars etc, the good part about Christians work is if you don't like what he's done he will set it back to the original setting and it won't cost you a $$$ can't get a better offer than that I don't reckon.

As I said the exhaust upgrade had already made a good diff (I have a hill where I plant the foot and there is a speed limit sign that I hit 80k's on consistently (without fail each time I get 80km/h as I pass it, this time with the exhaust on I hit 95! it just pulled harder all the way as well instead of it wanting too but couldn't type thing.

The engine wants to perform but because of the limitation of the tune it can't, this is where Christian comes in and removed a lot of the limitations that are built in to the programming, my main reason for wanting this done is to make the whole vehicle more driveable as such, I'm not chasing huge HP gains or anything like that, just interested in getting a better torque response from the whole rev range and improve gear box response too (the torque converter request settings in these are woeful but can be greatly enhanced with some ECU remapping.

I'll let you know how it goes mate.

EDIT: What sort of K's on your rig mate? mines only got just over 100k on it so should have plenty of life in it yet (I furking hope so anyway) cos I ain't got endless supplies of money for upgrades every few years.

Mines a Feb 2006 model, I bought it in 2012 with 60k on it, now 105k. The little 2.5 turbo goes ok but as I said its light, no air bags etc. I think when I bought it I looked around and it was 400kg lighter than a current (at the time) hilux.

Thing is when I throw a wife, 2 dogs, fridge, rifles, camping gear and 60l of water it suffers and a 3" exhaust would help keep it in 5th a bit more and help fuel consumption which jumps from 10.5's to 12l/100kms.

Being mechanical fuel pump a simple tune will boost it across the range once some pipes go on but I've been down this road before and it's a slippery slope. Next it's custom manifolds, turbo upgrades, suspension etc and you've spent 10k on a vehicle that's worth $10k.

Anyway, I'm off now to buy a new whipper snipper and blower, hmmm. Husky or shindiawa?

Chronos.

Yes no doubt it can become a slippery slope if you let it (not an issue for as I have SFA $$) only reason its getting done now is the Gov't owed us some $$ which I've decided to spend on getting this thing running as it should.

As for whipper snippers and blowers - I've got a Tanaka Blower vac and its been bloody brilliant, had it a good 10-12yrs now and never given an issues at all, 3 pulls on the cord and she's away every time without fail - even if she's sat there for a yr she starts 3 pulls every time even with yr old 2 stroke in it.

The Jap stuffs pretty bloody good I reckon.

Good luck which ever way you go mate, either should do the trick no worries at all.

This is the Tanaka I own (not my review either by the way, looks like ol mates getting a good run out of his too!)
http://www.productreview.com.au/p/tanak ... -held.html

[Die Judicii]

Second try to put this up, (a shorter version) hopefully successful this time.

Just goes to show that the older diesels are tougher and put up with more.
I used to own a 1987 landcruiser 60 Series with the 2H motor.
One day I accidentally filled it with unleaded petrol.
Blissfully unaware of my mistake, I drove home ( 27 klms ), and just as I pulled up to the shed, it stalled.
Tried to restart it unsuccessfully, and then I thought maybe I had water in the fuel.
When I took off the fuel cap, the smell of petrol was obvious.

Unlike todays vehicles it had a bung in the tank. (quality you dont get these days)
I drained the tank, and refilled it with fresh diesel.
After bleeding,, it fired up and ran without any problems.

I owned it for another 4 years after that, and it was still going strong when I sold it.
Since then its had 2 other owners.

It never showed any sign of any problems whatever from the petrol.

Wish I still owned it now,,,,

[bigfellascott]

Second try to put this up, (a shorter version) hopefully successful this time.

Just goes to show that the older diesels are tougher and put up with more.
I used to own a 1987 landcruiser 60 Series with the 2H motor.
One day I accidentally filled it with unleaded petrol.
Blissfully unaware of my mistake, I drove home ( 27 klms ), and just as I pulled up to the shed, it stalled.
Tried to restart it unsuccessfully, and then I thought maybe I had water in the fuel.
When I took off the fuel cap, the smell of petrol was obvious.

Unlike todays vehicles it had a bung in the tank. (quality you dont get these days)
I drained the tank, and refilled it with fresh diesel.
After bleeding,, it fired up and ran without any problems.

I owned it for another 4 years after that, and it was still going strong when I sold it.
Since then its had 2 other owners.

It never showed any sign of any problems whatever from the petrol.

Wish I still owned it now,,,,

I hear you Ed, the old stuff was less fussy with this sort of issue.

[bigfellascott]

Well I got the ECU remapped on the 2007 BT-50 (PJ model) and all I can say is money well spent, it pulls hard now out to around 4500rpm, (used to run out of puff at around 3200rpm) is smooth as through the gears now Automatic Gearbox (had all the shift points changed to improve the driveability of it) its gone from around 370nm of torque to 510nm so a good increase there, it's had all the torque limitations removed and it just drives a lot better and when you put the foot down it actually does something other than make a lot of noise and the revs slowly increase to achieve SFA anyway!, I overtook a truck yesterday and it was a breeze, got around him super fast so a lot safer to overtake in now compared to the effort it used to put in (bloody dangerous at times as it just didn't seem to want to pick up and move along much )

The turbo boost was increased around 2fp and the rail pressures increased around 2% so nothing drastic done to either to cause any real issues there and considering the 1100+ ASL that I run in it made very good power and peak boost very well - over all just a completely diff vehicle to drive now which was the aim of the whole thing, I wasn't after mad horsepower gains (I can get it tuned to a much higher level if I really want too) but I didn't want to push the engine too hard I just wanted something that was more driveable than it was and Chris from Crispmods certainly achieved that alright.

Temps were very good at around 90deg in the radiator and only increased a couple of deg when going up hills fast and standing on the loud pedal a lot so all good there too.

No real need to fit a bigger intercooler unless I intend to do a lot of towing or I increase the output levels more them I would need a EGT gauge to help monitor EG temps as the crown temps can get up around 1000deg which ain't where you want em to be.

Another fella came out to my place to get his Amarok done too and was very happy with the results as far as I could tell, apparently it was a bit ordinary when towing things (would struggle a lot).

Chris is well known in the industry for his ECU work and travels all over Oz doing just that, he works on Trucks, Cars, 4WDs Jetski's you name it (just google Crispmods and you will fine his name mentioned everywhere in relation to his tunes).

If your vehicle is in need of some help in the get up and go department I'd give Christian a call and for those that think chips are the way to go think again, the ECU tunes are the way to go because they are cheaper to do and are way more flexible in what they can achieve and do so a lot safer and with way better results too.


http://stores.ebay.com.au/CRISP-MODS

[Chronos]

Well I got the ECU remapped on the 2007 BT-50 (PJ model) and all I can say is money well spent, it pulls hard now out to around 4500rpm, (used to run out of puff at around 3200rpm) is smooth as through the gears now Automatic Gearbox (had all the shift points changed to improve the driveability of it) its gone from around 370nm of torque to 510nm so a good increase there, it's had all the torque limitations removed and it just drives a lot better and when you put the foot down it actually does something other than make a lot of noise and the revs slowly increase to achieve SFA anyway!, I overtook a truck yesterday and it was a breeze, got around him super fast so a lot safer to overtake in now compared to the effort it used to put in (bloody dangerous at times as it just didn't seem to want to pick up and move along much )

The turbo boost was increased around 2fp and the rail pressures increased around 2% so nothing drastic done to either to cause any real issues there and considering the 1100+ ASL that I run in it made very good power and peak boost very well - over all just a completely diff vehicle to drive now which was the aim of the whole thing, I wasn't after mad horsepower gains (I can get it tuned to a much higher level if I really want too) but I didn't want to push the engine too hard I just wanted something that was more driveable than it was and Chris from Crispmods certainly achieved that alright.

Temps were very good at around 90deg in the radiator and only increased a couple of deg when going up hills fast and standing on the loud pedal a lot so all good there too.

No real need to fit a bigger intercooler unless I intend to do a lot of towing or I increase the output levels more them I would need a EGT gauge to help monitor EG temps as the crown temps can get up around 1000deg which ain't where you want em to be.

Another fella came out to my place to get his Amarok done too and was very happy with the results as far as I could tell, apparently it was a bit ordinary when towing things (would struggle a lot).

Chris is well known in the industry for his ECU work and travels all over Oz doing just that, he works on Trucks, Cars, 4WDs Jetski's you name it (just google Crispmods and you will fine his name mentioned everywhere in relation to his tunes).

If your vehicle is in need of some help in the get up and go department I'd give Christian a call and for those that think chips are the way to go think again, the ECU tunes are the way to go because they are cheaper to do and are way more flexible in what they can achieve and do so a lot safer and with way better results too.


http://stores.ebay.com.au/CRISP-MODS

follows what i've heard about the amarok too, 3500kg towing capacity but not enough grunt to tow a 2500kg vehicle trailer, one of our old customers sold his 'Rok and went back to towing with his D22 Navara,

Chronos

[bigfellascott]

Well I got the ECU remapped on the 2007 BT-50 (PJ model) and all I can say is money well spent, it pulls hard now out to around 4500rpm, (used to run out of puff at around 3200rpm) is smooth as through the gears now Automatic Gearbox (had all the shift points changed to improve the driveability of it) its gone from around 370nm of torque to 510nm so a good increase there, it's had all the torque limitations removed and it just drives a lot better and when you put the foot down it actually does something other than make a lot of noise and the revs slowly increase to achieve SFA anyway!, I overtook a truck yesterday and it was a breeze, got around him super fast so a lot safer to overtake in now compared to the effort it used to put in (bloody dangerous at times as it just didn't seem to want to pick up and move along much )

The turbo boost was increased around 2fp and the rail pressures increased around 2% so nothing drastic done to either to cause any real issues there and considering the 1100+ ASL that I run in it made very good power and peak boost very well - over all just a completely diff vehicle to drive now which was the aim of the whole thing, I wasn't after mad horsepower gains (I can get it tuned to a much higher level if I really want too) but I didn't want to push the engine too hard I just wanted something that was more driveable than it was and Chris from Crispmods certainly achieved that alright.

Temps were very good at around 90deg in the radiator and only increased a couple of deg when going up hills fast and standing on the loud pedal a lot so all good there too.

No real need to fit a bigger intercooler unless I intend to do a lot of towing or I increase the output levels more them I would need a EGT gauge to help monitor EG temps as the crown temps can get up around 1000deg which ain't where you want em to be.

Another fella came out to my place to get his Amarok done too and was very happy with the results as far as I could tell, apparently it was a bit ordinary when towing things (would struggle a lot).

Chris is well known in the industry for his ECU work and travels all over Oz doing just that, he works on Trucks, Cars, 4WDs Jetski's you name it (just google Crispmods and you will fine his name mentioned everywhere in relation to his tunes).

If your vehicle is in need of some help in the get up and go department I'd give Christian a call and for those that think chips are the way to go think again, the ECU tunes are the way to go because they are cheaper to do and are way more flexible in what they can achieve and do so a lot safer and with way better results too.


http://stores.ebay.com.au/CRISP-MODS

follows what i've heard about the amarok too, 3500kg towing capacity but not enough grunt to tow a 2500kg vehicle trailer, one of our old customers sold his 'Rok and went back to towing with his D22 Navara,

Chronos

Yeah that's pretty much it mate, nice cars to drive around in but with a 2.5 engine I think it was it would struggle with a good load on I would imagine, but with some ECU tuning they can handle it well from all accounts. All I know is that driving mine is a lot diff now, it feels strong if you know what I mean, you feel like it has power on tap if needed and its willing to make and use it now unlike it was from the factory (I called it the asthmatic 90yr old as it had nothing to give even when the foot was flat to the floor. different story now but!

[Oldbloke]

Back to 2 stroke. Iasked a manager at merc, As u know they use diesels in most models. It is there bread and butter. I got this reply.

"I have spoken to a number of the guys here and we have not seen anything from Benz that suggests adding lube to diesel fuel, the workshop guys here said they would certainly not recommend it, could cause more harm than good."

just passing it along Take it or leave it.