My new Weatherby Vanguard S2's

[rsj223]

Never thought of swapping could be worth a go, the Nikko gets very average on full zoom and never thought to try it on about 10x or so to see if it changes, thanks you have give me some simple things to try at the range.

[bigfellascott]

Yeah try the basics and see how it goes, shouldn't take too much to suss out if its the scope or not.

[rsj223]

Just one thing I noticed with the .308 the bolt was hard to lift when ejecting a round but easy without one?

[wayward]

My big stuff up was a sore arm and a body that had been resting for about the last 5 weeks had a hard time moving so did dumb things like adjusting the scope to the left instead of right, even the cleaning became almost impossible with my arm.

I busted my collar bone a while ago and stupidly went to the range too early with it.

Won't be doing that again.

[rsj223]

Still giving me grief.

[rsj223]

Yeah try the basics and see how it goes, shouldn't take too much to suss out if its the scope or not.

Managed to get them out today, I put the Boyds stock on the 223 and it was not happy with that so swapped the scope but all the same, put the original stock on and done up the screws fairly firm (noticed they were finger tight when I swapped the stock) and back to the old scope and bingo all the un doing re doing seemed to help it.
So both shooting fine and under 1 inch at 100mtrs, now thats fixed need to find a new toy

[bigfellascott]

Yeah those screw tensions can make a diff alright, I don't over tighten mine much at all (boyds stocks) and they seem to shoot better that way. Anyway you've solved the mystery as to why it didn't shoot so all good

[Bark]

Yeah those screw tensions can make a diff alright, I don't over tighten mine much at all (boyds stocks) and they seem to shoot better that way.

Experience seems to vary a lot for the benefit (or lack thereof) of screw tensions.

A lot of guys just do 'finger tight' and have no problems, others have to use their torque screwdriver to get it perfect or they can see double the size groups when it's not right.

[bigfellascott]

Yeah those screw tensions can make a diff alright, I don't over tighten mine much at all (boyds stocks) and they seem to shoot better that way.

Experience seems to vary a lot for the benefit (or lack thereof) of screw tensions.

A lot of guys just do 'finger tight' and have no problems, others have to use their torque screwdriver to get it perfect or they can see double the size groups when it's not right.

Yeah you have to have a fiddle with em and see what works for your particular rifle, I remember helping a fella with one of those cheap savage 223's (can't remember the model now sorry) but it was putting in ordinary groups with handloads (around 2-3" groups from memory) so I said lets have a little fiddle with the actions screws so we loosened them up and did them back up hand tight and then shot a group, and we just kept doing it until the groups were around 20c piece in size and left it at that (that's the best way I can find to tune a rifle without going to a lot of effort or expense, been doing it using that simple method for years now and it does work from my experience, I don't own a torque wrench (probably should get one) that way I could do the same with one of them and have a record of what works for each rifle, but this way works fine for now.

[Usurper]

I know Ruger specify how much torque to use on their Hawkeyes. I can't think of any other brands off the top of my head which have a specific setting mentioned. If it was that important to the other brands they'd mention it. You'd think...

[rsj223]

So maybe I had them to tight for the Boyds now it looks like I got some more testing to do

[Gwion]

So maybe I had them to tight for the Boyds now it looks like I got some more testing to do

Torquing too tight in an unbedded stock can cause stress in the action and effect the rifle's performance. Then again, screws settling into new/unbedded timber will cause some variation as well.

Keep it in the plastic stock for now if it's shooting good.

In the meantime, put some pillars in the boyds and full length bed the action. It's a fiddly job but a fun project and worthwhile.

Mine is pillar and full length bedded. Just crank the action screws evenly and she shoots straight.

[RDobber]

Just crank the action screws evenly and she shoots straight.

That's all I've ever done with mine too