Pump action rifle legalities

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Pump action rifle legalities

Post by Aussiehunter91 » 02 Aug 2015, 9:50 am

Hi all,

For years I have been looking at getting the Remington 7615. And finally I'm in a position to buy one but obviously with the current firearm laws review I don't know what I should do. Buy one now or wait to see what happens. The gun with a good optic is around 2k so I don't want to buy it and the police or government come to my house and take it or give me peanuts for it in a couple of months.

I'm all for not giving it back but I guess if it gets to that point it's all over. if I do buy one and they change categories I don't want to loose the gun most importantly but the money side too. I'm in the process of writing letters but I have a feeling it will fall on deaf ears.

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Post by bluerob » 02 Aug 2015, 12:43 pm

I'd buy it tomorrow and enjoy it.

You'll have a lot of fun with this before it ever gets confiscated.
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Post by Aussiehunter91 » 02 Aug 2015, 6:41 pm

Already filled in pta. I hope all this non sense gets resolved soon I've only had my licence for 5 years and I'm already over it. feel sorry for the poor bastards that had to go through the buy back. So if they did move it to cat c or d would they ring me or send a letter saying you need to sell it by this date or we will come to your house and forcibly take it kind of thing and what would be my rights to keep it?
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Post by on_one_wheel » 02 Aug 2015, 9:00 pm

Tell em that they can pry it from your cold dead fingers !

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That one was my grandfather's ;)
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Post by headspace » 03 Aug 2015, 6:23 pm

They can't simply come and take your gun if it was legally acquired and stored. As long as you have acted within the current law, the situation will be the same as the buy back where you are supposed to be paid fair market value. I know of some blokes who got way more than they thought they would in the last Big Buy Back.
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Post by WildHunter » 03 Aug 2015, 7:50 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:Tell em that they can pry it from your cold dead fingers !

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That one was my grandfather's ;)



I want that, and I want it now. Where do I part with my money
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Post by on_one_wheel » 03 Aug 2015, 9:56 pm

WildHunter wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:Tell em that they can pry it from your cold dead fingers !

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That one was my grandfather's ;)



I want that, and I want it now. Where do I part with my money


I cant sell my Grandfather's buckle but I found one for you
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Post by WildHunter » 03 Aug 2015, 11:34 pm

I wasn't expecting you too, I was more going for where do I buy. But you did all the work. Thanks ;)
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Post by Chickenhawk » 05 Aug 2015, 10:01 am

bentaz wrote:we haven't lost yet


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Post by Heckler303 » 05 Aug 2015, 10:38 am

Anyone else find it interesting that pump-action rifle = ok, but pump-action shotgun = not ok. That is one of the most ridiculous parts of the 96 laws IMO.


I wouldn't mind a Browning Pump-action .22 to go rabbit hunting at some point, if they made a 7600 in rimfire calibres that would be awesome :D
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Post by WildHunter » 05 Aug 2015, 10:45 am

Yeah I think it's to do with blast range, shotgun's are more dangerous close quarter because they maim/kill the distance of the spread, where as a rifle is still single shot.
However it's about change probably :(
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Post by Heckler303 » 05 Aug 2015, 1:31 pm

WildHunter wrote:Yeah I think it's to do with blast range, shotgun's are more dangerous close quarter because they maim/kill the distance of the spread, where as a rifle is still single shot.
However it's about change probably :(



I guess none of them have heard of rat-shot :lol:


Does anyone know if you can buy .308 ratshot? (a .308 cartridge filled with pellets instead of bullet))
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Post by brett1868 » 05 Aug 2015, 4:15 pm

Heckler303 wrote:
WildHunter wrote:Yeah I think it's to do with blast range, shotgun's are more dangerous close quarter because they maim/kill the distance of the spread, where as a rifle is still single shot.
However it's about change probably :(



I guess none of them have heard of rat-shot :lol:


Does anyone know if you can buy .308 ratshot? (a .308 cartridge filled with pellets instead of bullet))


Glaser Safety slugs used to be available in .30 Cal from Corbon in the US. It's essentially a thin copper jacket filled with shot with a polymer tip, were initially designed for air marshals in .380 & 9mm for use on aircraft.
Punch "glaser safety slugs" into google for more reading.
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Post by headspace » 05 Aug 2015, 6:23 pm

Heckler303 wrote:Anyone else find it interesting that pump-action rifle = ok, but pump-action shotgun = not ok. That is one of the most ridiculous parts of the 96 laws IMO.


I wouldn't mind a Browning Pump-action .22 to go rabbit hunting at some point, if they made a 7600 in rimfire calibres that would be awesome :D

Mate, I believe it's more about image than anything else. The Pump action shottie has always been the preferred weapon of the bikie mob. Remember Arnold's effort in Terminator. The facts are that a pump action shotgun with a normal barrel length and a 5shot mag is pretty benign.
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Post by Heckler303 » 05 Aug 2015, 7:56 pm

bentaz wrote:Yup it was all about ban "the scary badguy gun I saw in the movies".
7600 is a POS if you ask me, my brother has one and its more trouble than its worth.



I've heard some differences in the 7600, but holding one up, it felt pretty solid to me. I guess it all really comes down to how it really works of course :D


Curious though, are there any good pump-action rifles out there? I'd be looking for one in 22lr, and the Browning Trombone looks like a inexpensive treat :thumbsup:
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Post by Heckler303 » 05 Aug 2015, 8:34 pm

bentaz wrote:I've got a winchester 1906 .22 for my daughter coz she's a dirty south paw, it can be fussy on ammo but its a great fun little gun and she loves it.
Its almost a hundred years old, they made real guns back then :thumbsup:


Just took a quick look at it, now THAT is a blast from the past. It'd be a shame to try and make something like that modern with flashlights, rails and a silencer :lol: . Then again, people have gone full 'tacticool' with nearly everything


(Also, everything 'tacticool' would be legal aside from the silencer)
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Post by Oldbloke » 05 Aug 2015, 9:39 pm

Heckler303 wrote:Anyone else find it interesting that pump-action rifle = ok, but pump-action shotgun = not ok. That is one of the most ridiculous parts of the 96 laws IMO.


I have always considered it a stupid political decision.
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Post by sandgroperbill » 05 Aug 2015, 11:18 pm

bentaz wrote:I've seen crazier things done. A mate of mine has a martini cadet rifle in .300 blackout with a 1 in thick heavy barrel a massive muzzle brake and all finished off in black with a red dot sight.
Its the most tacticool single shot ever. :unknown:
He had it built for his son to use as a deer rifle.


I'm not sure what to say to that...
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Post by Heckler303 » 06 Aug 2015, 7:40 am

Oldbloke wrote:
Heckler303 wrote:Anyone else find it interesting that pump-action rifle = ok, but pump-action shotgun = not ok. That is one of the most ridiculous parts of the 96 laws IMO.


I have always considered it a stupid political decision.



I can understand semi-automatic shotguns being moved to cat C, due to their self loading nature, though a pump-action is still a manual process, so yeah, its definitely pretty screwed up that they were moved off to that.


And now its looking as if the lever-action shotgun and regular break actions are in trouble :crazy:
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Post by Wobble » 11 Aug 2015, 8:47 am

Heckler303 wrote:I can understand semi-automatic shotguns being moved to cat C, due to their self loading nature, though a pump-action is still a manual process, so yeah, its definitely pretty screwed up that they were moved off to that.


And pump is not significantly faster than a bolt with a little practice either.
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