Lithgow Crossover Timber .22

[Wylie27]

I read that the Cz magazines have the same issues regarding stove piping.

The Lithgow mags are the same design and maybe they have the same issues.


I agree you should be upset about it...

[rsj223]

I get less upset every time I look at it but see what happens.

[Wylie27]

Well it's been sent off to LA for assessment.

It was weird. It was kind of like handing over my first born..

[brisb]

It was kind of like handing over my first born..

Yeah but you can make a new kid any time. Good timber is hard to fine

[sandgroperbill]

Making kids is fun, but it's even more expensive than shooting, so careful...

[la101]

I took my synthetic la101 for its second outing on Friday. I am using a 10 round cz polymer mag and had a few feed dramas with it also. Although it was a different failure to the one posted. i had a few first round (of 5) jam at about 45 deg using winchester 42gr power points.

Other than a half dozen of these jam ups it performed flawlessly and is extremely accurate.

[bigfellascott]

I took my synthetic la101 for its second outing on Friday. I am using a 10 round cz polymer mag and had a few feed dramas with it also. Although it was a different failure to the one posted. i had a few first round (of 5) jam at about 45 deg using winchester 42gr power points.

Other than a half dozen of these jam ups it performed flawlessly and is extremely accurate.

Doesn't sound real flash mate, I wouldn't be happy with that issue either, they should function as described none of these feed issues should be happening, just not good enough for a rifle of that price, the daughters $400 Savage never had feed issues and is very very accurate (5 shots into a 5 or 10c piece) at 50m with a 6x Tasco Scope.

I wouldn't be putting up with an issue like that personally, these things obviously have issues and Lithgow must be aware of them by now so why the hell haven't they addressed them?

[David Brown]

My guess is the lips of the mag are too close together….probably need some wet and dry paper and a set of verniers. The secret is to know the dimension you need.

RAR 223 had this too!

[sandgroperbill]

I experienced the RAR .223 mag issue. I phoned my lgs, they said phone NIOA directly. Phoned NIOA, they asked who my lgs was, I told them. NIOA told me there were no spare mags in the country, but they were setting aside one from the next shipment. Few weeks later, I got a phone call, walked into my LGS, handed over my mag, was handed a new mag with a slightly differwent follower, all done.

Playing with the original mag, you could see the problem was that the follower would allow the final cartridge to slip slightly, and it would be pushed down alongside the follower instead of being stripped as you would close the bolt. But to their credit, they were perfectly honest and easy to deal with and it was a pretty painless experience. Worst case scenario (had it been more difficult) was I could have bent the follower slightly to prevent the last round slipping alongside, but I didn't have to do that as I had no problem with the after market service.

On a side note, if you really needed to (though I wouldn't reccomend it, wouldn't want to put undue stress on the springs), you can load 6 rounds into the 5 round mag

[Humir]

It wouldn't just be the magazine spring loosening up and finding its place?

[stefo]

This is all very strange because my lithgow has ZERO issues and i love it, i also run the 10 shot CZ mag... so it must be a one off .

Have not had a single feed issue..

[Wylie27]

Stefo,

Mine started doing it after a while... Seems as though it is a common issue.

Mines with Lithgow being looked at

[rsj223]

They have had it about 3 days and after a phone call from them on 5/11/15 with me requesting a refund he declined and the following is part of the email he sent me.
I understand your stated intent to pursue a refund, however I would like to lay out the options we can offer you under the rifle warranty:

1. Your rifle is investigated and remediated to correct the current issues and returned ‘as new’.

2. You receive an entirely new rifle. We will conduct additional function checks above the standard before sending it out given the issues you had experienced.

3. As you had mentioned you liked your stock – refit your current stock with a brand new barrel and receiver, again with additional function and accuracy checks conducted above the normal.

If possible, I would ask that you consider one of these options and I will be in touch again Tuesday next week.

[Wylie27]

I dropped mine off to the dealer on the 31st October and chased them twice with an update today

"Your rifle has gone through the measurement process and we are now cross checking to nail the down the required solution. "

Not sure what that means.

[rsj223]

I dropped mine off to the dealer on the 31st October and chased them twice with an update today

"Your rifle has gone through the measurement process and we are now cross checking to nail the down the required solution. "

Not sure what that means.

There not sure or they stumped lol

[Wylie27]

Lol yeah. Most likely.

[ebr love]

I dropped mine off to the dealer on the 31st October and chased them twice with an update today

What's happening Wylie?

[OODAH]

Whats the go with these .22's? I was looking at purchasing one as my first rifle, then I came across this thread, and too top it off I found this video on Youtube about the safety switch making it fire!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBzhLDwtgJo

[Wylie27]

I dropped mine off to the dealer on the 31st October and chased them twice with an update today

What's happening Wylie?

Still waiting to hear back unfortunately.

[Wylie27]

Whats the go with these .22's? I was looking at purchasing one as my first rifle, then I came across this thread, and too top it off I found this video on Youtube about the safety switch making it fire!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBzhLDwtgJo

Hadn't experienced that one personally... Then again I haven't used the safety switch..

[rsj223]

Whats the go with these .22's? I was looking at purchasing one as my first rifle, then I came across this thread, and too top it off I found this video on Youtube about the safety switch making it fire!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBzhLDwtgJo

Never seen that one if I shoot mine again I will look at that but I will probably just leave it in the box and sell it.

[rsj223]

After then saying it will be repaired I get this.
Just a quick note to acknowledge receipt of your email yesterday. We have received your rifle and it is under investigation to identify the cause of the problems you experienced.
I will let you know the outcome and the format of the rifle you will receive back as soon as I can.

[deanp100]

The safety was able to set the old model 12 's off. Maybe this was included for historical reasons.
Deano

[Title_II]

The safety was able to set the old model 12 's off. Maybe this was included for historical reasons.
Deano

^LOL

When I was a kid I had an issue with a .22. We had a house that was not very old, maybe 20 years tops, neighbor built it. A lot of very bad things happened in that house before I ended up there. Somebody hung themself, there was an armed and violent home invasion that I never got the details about (I think it was worse than I was told), and there were spackled up bullet holes/shotgun blasts.

It was a split level ranch. My bedroom was at the far end of the house. Me and a buddy were playing grabass or whatever in my bedroom after school while my parents were at work. Bedroom door was closed. We heard somebody walk up the steps from the lower level, walk down the hall, and stop right on the outside of my bedroom door. My buddy turned as white as a ghost. Not a word was spoken between us. Then he said, "Is that your dad?" or something like that and I said, "No, we would have heard him turn off the alarm." I grabbed the .30-30 and he grabbed the .41 (both over my bed) and we "cleared" the house (didn't know that term back then) fully expecting to blast some people. I didn't want to say it, but my buddy did. "You have a ghost." He was still white as a ghost. I couldn't get him to come to my house for another month or so.

A couple months later, it happened again. Someone walked up the stairs, down the hall, and stopped at my bedroom door. I was alone this time. I grabbed a semi .22 and threw open the door. Nothing. I heard someone in my parent's room across the hall from me, but their door was at the end of the hall so I couldn't see in. This was it, I was going to have to shoot somebody. I pushed the safety to fire and the rifle fired a full-auto burst into the floor (this was a semi). I did not touch the trigger. I was more than a little surprised and the timing was not exactly perfect. I went back to my room and got another gun. Of course, the house was empty.

I never told my parents about this. When you are there, it's one thing, when your kid tells you there was a ghost in the house and he shot up the hallway, it's another. We had no basement (to see beams of light from above) and most of the rounds went into the carpet and where not visible. One round hit the molding but was not apparent unless you looked for it.

That summer I went away for a week or two visiting family. When I came back there was new carpet and the hall was painted. I thought for certain somebody was about to beat my ass so I looked for the hole in the molding. It was spackled. Nobody ever said a word about it and to this day I haven't brought it up.

[Chickenhawk]

We had a house that was not very old, maybe 20 years tops, neighbor built it. A lot of very bad things happened in that house before I ended up there. Somebody hung themself, there was an armed and violent home invasion that I never got the details about (I think it was worse than I was told), and there were spackled up bullet holes/shotgun blasts.

Hope you got the place for real cheap.....

[Title_II]

We had a house that was not very old, maybe 20 years tops, neighbor built it. A lot of very bad things happened in that house before I ended up there. Somebody hung themself, there was an armed and violent home invasion that I never got the details about (I think it was worse than I was told), and there were spackled up bullet holes/shotgun blasts.

Hope you got the place for real cheap.....

I was a kid so I didn't pay for it. This was not the Ghetto, it was a nice rural house on a nice piece of land with a pool. And, with a bad history.

Sorry about the thread drift! That should do 'er.

[OODAH]

At least it sounds like Lithgow gives relatively good customer service and wants to really make sure they fix any problems with there product?

[rsj223]

At least it sounds like Lithgow gives relatively good customer service and wants to really make sure they fix any problems with there product?

I guess at the end of the day it will be 100% it's just disappointing to find out on the first day its a dud

[AusTac]

My lithgow had a fail to feed every now and again, which i'll be honest didn't really bother me as i top loaded 90% of the time but i thought i may as well get it sorted while still under warranty apart from that i love the thing, thats the only issue, but as others have said they are easy to deal with

[rsj223]

My lithgow had a fail to feed every now and again, which i'll be honest didn't really bother me as i top loaded 90% of the time but i thought i may as well get it sorted while still under warranty apart from that i love the thing, thats the only issue, but as others have said they are easy to deal with

What groups are you getting at 100 if you have tried?