Concealed Carry in Australia

[Title_II]

There is no way concealed carry is going away in the US. The net of all gun laws in the US in the last 20 years has been more freedom, not less. Even the few states that have passed gun control measures in the past 20 years have not touched concealed carry or have made it EASIER. If you look at the map I posted, you will see that the most likely thing to happen to concealed carry in the US over the next 20 years is we will go from 7 states where you don't need a permit to almost all 50.

Things are still going great for gun rights in the US. Could it change? Yes, it could some day. But concealed carry would be the last thing to go.

[VICHunter]

Just don't let them get a foot hold with a firearms registry.

[bear foot bowhunter]

Hi guys here is a ruff draft petition that is being pas around to see what cined of numbers it can get

https://www.change.org/p/fishing-hunting-australia-allow-australians-concealed-carry-for-self-defense?recruiter=26851048&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_for_starters_page&utm_term=mob-xs-no_src-no_msg

[<<Genesis93>>]

BFB, don't take this the wrong way; but I hope YOU didn't write the petition...
will check it out, but I think having many poorly reasoned/argued petitions does zero, in fact detracts from the cause....

[bear foot bowhunter]

No mate had nothing to do with righting it , here is the formal one tho haven't read it yet but hope it is better

https://www.change.org/p/the-office-of-the-prime-minister-of-australia-the-right-to-carry-firearms-should-be-in-place-in-open-society

[Heckler303]

Signed both.


"I'd rather go to my grave never needing my gun, then go there wishing I had it"

[bear foot bowhunter]

Signed both.


"I'd rather go to my grave never needing my gun, then go there wishing I had it"

think that is the thought of every one , even the thought of antis when there in trouble

[gunnerjacky]

One of the worst gun laws which I have experienced is in Massachusetts. A person who lives there has to go through very tiring gun laws which don't even allow him to carry his own gun in the public unless he has acquired Class B license and to carry that license he has to get himself registered in firearms training school.

[<<Genesis93>>]

One of the worst gun laws which I have experienced is in Massachusetts. A person who lives there has to go through very tiring gun laws which don't even allow him to carry his own gun in the public unless he has acquired Class B license and to carry that license he has to get himself registered in firearms training school.

Thats just plain awful...... you need to acquire a class B licence AND register for traing JUST so you can carry

I feel so sorry for Massachusettsenseses, 'cause in Australia, all WE need to do to carry in public is....

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[on_one_wheel]

My attitude toward carrying a side arm for self defense in Australia has changed dramatically in the last few months.

I've signed both , It's the only way we can let the government know that we want the right to self defence. I don't want my daughter's to be victoms.

Personally I have never felt threatened by anyone, but one day I'll be old and weak ... if some punk wants my wallet, I'd like the option to be able to say " tell me punk, do you feel lucky? "

[adam]

As much as I'd love to see CC in Australia, we've got a number of hurdles.

Firstly, the government wants us to be completely dependent on them. They want control. I've seen this with bushfires (stopping well equipped private firefighting units into their own property even though they're CFA members), and we see it with home invasions, and other policing matters. They're scared of what people who can think independently might do.

It's not so much about safety - it's about control. The more people with firearms and CC - the less control the government feels it has. This country has well gone past the "government for the people" to the "government ruling over the people", and this needs to swing back if CC is ever going to happen.

The media also needs to be made accountable for the lies it spreads as well. Hoplophobia is rife in our country because of the way the media portrays firearms.

Then we have the increase in road rage - idiots on the road with a quick temper. Whilst the evidence I've heard is that areas that have CC have less road rage (people are more aware of the dangers to their own life if they threaten anothers life) - politicians won't be able to 'see' these results and will instead focus on things such as 'what if one of these uses their gun' - thus once again looking at it's own citizens as a threat, rather than the good that CC could potentially do in the future with the increase in terrorism.

And if the government see's it's own citizens as a threat more than terrorism - I've got to start asking why...

What gives me some glimmer of hope is the increase of independents in parliament. The problem is that the greens are also getting more popular. (Not because people are voting for them for their policies - but because people are over the main parties and feel it's the best way to "stick it to them", ignorant to the damage the greens are doing elsewhere).

[happyhunter]

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[<<Genesis93>>]

My attitude toward carrying a side arm for self defense in Australia has changed dramatically in the last few months.

I've signed both , It's the only way we can let the government know that we want the right to self defence. I don't want my daughter's to be victoms.

Personally I have never felt threatened by anyone, but one day I'll be old and weak ... if some punk wants my wallet, I'd like the option to be able to say " tell me punk, do you feel lucky? "

I think a lot of people attitude of late has changed, not only those willing to carry, but those who might otherwise be 'against gun' but see the public attacks, Sydney, Paris, countless others, and realise there might be pros with having a few more good guys carrying in the crowd.....

[<<Genesis93>>]

Ryan Kropp, if you're on here or anyone knows him, PM me, I have 'adjusted' the test of your petition if you're interested, removing the errors and reworded it, for what its worth... Honestly, before posting something like this you really need to read it through 2 or 3 times.......

[Baronvonrort]

Signed even though I have no desire to concealed carry.

Better to have something pro gun going to politicians instead of the garbage from GCA

[Bourt]

Firstly, the government wants us to be completely dependent on them. They want control. I've seen this with bushfires (stopping well equipped private firefighting units into their own property even though they're CFA members)

Say what?

[<<Genesis93>>]

Signed even though I have no desire to concealed carry.

Better to have something pro gun going to politicians instead of the garbage from GCA

Who wants concealed hey....

when you can do it in style;



2 problems though for the tards;

1 - its a gunses
2 - its made of dead elephant parts

[Wes]

And high powered elephant parts too probably!

[David Brown]

That would be new technology, rapid fire, high powered elephant parts, designed to beat our not tough enough gun laws

[<<Genesis93>>]

That would be new technology, rapid fire, high powered elephant parts, designed to beat our not tough enough gun laws

a fully automatic sub machine rapid very very high powered elephant parts....

[on_one_wheel]

Signed even though I have no desire to concealed carry.

Better to have something pro gun going to politicians instead of the garbage from GCA

Who wants concealed hey....

when you can do it in style;



2 problems though for the tards;

1 - its a gunses3
2 - its made of dead elephant parts

Couldn't agree more, guns are cool show em off , besides having it open carry would act as a deterrent and probably reduce any need to draw.

[Harper]

Yeah I could live with one of those

[Heckler303]

Imagine the talks people would have if open and conceal carry was suddenly made legal (For law abiding citizens) in places like coles and woolies when someone walks in with a gat? I bet it would fall into 4 stereotypes:

1. Unsure people who don't want to go near him/concerned of it slightly

2. Whacky teens who look at it, point and think how cool it looks and just laughing with mates that managed to spot some guy who was carrying

3. That fellow shooter who wonder why he chose a kimber over a colt when it comes to 1911s, if he is using Winchester silver-tips from the LGS or handloads, how good his holster is, basically eyeballing it all over.

4. Sexually pathetic latte-sipping lefties who run and scream at just the sight of it before calling him all various assorted derogatory names names

[coloradoboy]

I always carry a concealed .38 revolver on my right hip in an IWB holster with a speed strip in my pocket. I don't think there has ever been a day I went outside without my .38.

I do also carry a glock 17 in a shoulder holster (mostly in winter, fall and spring when the weather is cool here in Denver). The glock is for sustained combat if need be and from a distance when a malfunction isn't as fatally problematic as close distance.

Contrary to what some people think in the US, i think OC is bad idea cause raising alarm to the general public never helps in preserving our freedom and rights.

Never had to use it in a DGU, but I like the feeling of being in control my life and my security. You guys in Australia need to change the government from this nanny mentality.

[David Brown]

Yes, I agree, OC is not worth it. If you are in a public place and something starts, you are immediately a target and lost your tactical advantage of being concealed carry. And everyone turns around to you and says "Hey you with the gun, shoot this bastard".

[agentzero]

I'm not a huge fan of OC either.

Agree CC is a better option.

[adam]

One of the advantages of CC over police is that the police are visible. Terrorists or others wanting to do harm can time their move in coordination when they're not around, etc. CC stops them from knowing who has and who has not.

[<<Genesis93>>]

One of the advantages of CC over police is that the police are visible. Terrorists or others wanting to do harm can time their move in coordination when they're not around, etc. CC stops them from knowing who has and who has not.

Easier to conceal a handgun on your person?? The police would stick out from under your jacket...

[Releb]

Is that a police officer in your pants or are you just happy to see me