Big City Top Cops Tell Citizens to Defend Themselves, but Deny Them the Guns with Which to Do So
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Big City Top Cops Tell Citizens to Defend Themselves, but Deny Them the Guns with Which to Do So

Title_II wrote:If you carry a fun in Australia you will go to jail.

Heckler303 wrote:lol you don't need a gun just take up karate

Herdsman wrote:Heckler303 wrote:lol you don't need a gun just take up karate
Not sure if you're serious or taking the piss?
Title_II wrote:If you carry a fun in Australia you will go to jail.



adam wrote:Saw a girl on the news the other night admitting that she carries a sharpened pencil for self defense everywhere she goes now.
Normal people aren't ignorant that dangers have been increasing in our society. Streets that could once be walked after dark are becoming more unsafe, and even attacks against women in the middle of the day at parks, etc.
What would be better - a girl with a sharpen pencil - potentially lethal but also a greater risk that it could be used back on her, or allow them to use mace / tazers.
There really needs to be a greater outcry for the ability for the community to defend themselves.
Title_II wrote:If you carry a fun in Australia you will go to jail.


Heckler303 wrote:
I'd like a taser, but would someone please tell me what exactly mace is?

Gwion wrote:Heckler303 wrote:
I'd like a taser, but would someone please tell me what exactly mace is?
Mace is a chemical spray designed to temporarily blind and cause pain.
Title_II wrote:If you carry a fun in Australia you will go to jail.


Heckler303 wrote:Gwion wrote:Heckler303 wrote:
I'd like a taser, but would someone please tell me what exactly mace is?
Mace is a chemical spray designed to temporarily blind and cause pain.
So its the new Capsicum spray then
Ehh, I'd rather make a crim become part of a circuit.

Heckler303 wrote:adam wrote:Saw a girl on the news the other night admitting that she carries a sharpened pencil for self defense everywhere she goes now.
Normal people aren't ignorant that dangers have been increasing in our society. Streets that could once be walked after dark are becoming more unsafe, and even attacks against women in the middle of the day at parks, etc.
What would be better - a girl with a sharpen pencil - potentially lethal but also a greater risk that it could be used back on her, or allow them to use mace / tazers.
There really needs to be a greater outcry for the ability for the community to defend themselves.
I'd like a taser, but would someone please tell me what exactly mace is?

Gwion wrote:Heckler303 wrote:Gwion wrote:Heckler303 wrote:
I'd like a taser, but would someone please tell me what exactly mace is?
Mace is a chemical spray designed to temporarily blind and cause pain.
So its the new Capsicum spray then
Ehh, I'd rather make a crim become part of a circuit.
No, it's the "old" capsicum spray.

Heckler303 wrote:Gwion wrote:Heckler303 wrote:Gwion wrote:Heckler303 wrote:
I'd like a taser, but would someone please tell me what exactly mace is?
Mace is a chemical spray designed to temporarily blind and cause pain.
So its the new Capsicum spray then
Ehh, I'd rather make a crim become part of a circuit.
No, it's the "old" capsicum spray.
We still cant have it anyway


adam wrote:Saw a girl on the news the other night admitting that she carries a sharpened pencil for self defense everywhere she goes now.
Normal people aren't ignorant that dangers have been increasing in our society. Streets that could once be walked after dark are becoming more unsafe, and even attacks against women in the middle of the day at parks, etc.
What would be better - a girl with a sharpen pencil - potentially lethal but also a greater risk that it could be used back on her, or allow them to use mace / tazers.
There really needs to be a greater outcry for the ability for the community to defend themselves.





happyhunter wrote:Knives are easy to conceal, but I wouldn't call them a weapon of defenses. More of an equalizer and they don't make any noise


happyhunter wrote:Interestingly, you might find people are just as reluctant to use a gun against another human although this freeze state can be trained out of people.
I have put myself in that situation while thinking about different stuff to do with CC. Personally, I hope that even if we were able to conceal carry anything, I'd much rather have no situation where I'd be forced to use it than have to put down someone on the spot.
Title_II wrote:If you carry a fun in Australia you will go to jail.


Title_II wrote:Screw that. I'll cut them wide, deep, and ugly. When you realize you have to go you commit to win and get the bastard(s).
Title_II wrote:If you carry a fun in Australia you will go to jail.

Gregg wrote:I would say most people (on the victim side) would be reluctant really have a go with a knife, whereas if the attacker got the knife off them due to their hesitation would more likely have no qualms about using it to full effect.

adam wrote:Gregg wrote:I would say most people (on the victim side) would be reluctant really have a go with a knife, whereas if the attacker got the knife off them due to their hesitation would more likely have no qualms about using it to full effect.
Knives aren't isolated with that. Any weapon that a victim has is likely to be used against them if the attacker can get that weapon off them. Gun, knife, taser, scissors, etc.
It's my opinion that no weapon should be presented unless that person is prepared to use it. True that many attackers may be deterred by the presence of such a weapon, however it's a gamble. With so many minds ruined by drugs - an attacker is just as likely to attack as to run these days, and if you're not prepared to use that weapon, you've just given an added opportunity to the assailant.
Title_II wrote:If you carry a fun in Australia you will go to jail.

Heckler303 wrote:You should really try to keep the element of surprise and use whatever you have on them before they have time to react. That's how you do it.

adam wrote:Heckler303 wrote:You should really try to keep the element of surprise and use whatever you have on them before they have time to react. That's how you do it.
I think it depends on the situation. I'd much prefer to pull a weapon that gives them an opportunity to back off and stop, but use it if I had absolutely no choice, rather than to just take a life straight up for the sake of surprise. But with the very limit options we have here in Australia (because we aren't allowed to use weapons for self defense) - I agree with you - sadly... surprise is one of very few options available to us.
Title_II wrote:If you carry a fun in Australia you will go to jail.
