Minor shooting on private property laws

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Minor shooting on private property laws

Post by Zachary » 17 Jan 2016, 8:07 pm

Hello I'm 16 years old from Queensland and I currently own .22 and a .177

I was wondering what are the laws for private property shooting?

Does my Father (Over 18 Full Licence) have to be present on the farm well I am Hunting / Target shooting.

All comments would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by Vati » 18 Jan 2016, 10:07 am

Yeah Zach,

You will always need the supervision of an licensed "adult" until you legally are one yourself.
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Post by Heckler303 » 18 Jan 2016, 11:20 am

Zachary wrote:Hello I'm 16 years old from Queensland and I currently own .22 and a .177

I was wondering what are the laws for private property shooting?

Does my Father (Over 18 Full Licence) have to be present on the farm well I am Hunting / Target shooting.

All comments would be greatly appreciated.




Pretty much so, gotta have a licensed adult (most cases its the old man) standing there supervising when you're punching holes in targets.


Also, welcome to the forum, and good idea joining up with us. At least now I've got someone else in a similar age group here :lol: .
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Re: Minor shooting on private property laws

Post by Zachary » 18 Jan 2016, 12:39 pm

Thanks Guys, really appreciate it. :)
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Post by AusC » 20 Jan 2016, 1:24 pm

Hang in there young fella, 2 years will go by in a flash
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Post by Rakk » 01 Feb 2016, 3:10 pm

AusC wrote:Hang in there young fella, 2 years will go by in a flash


Not when you're the one waiting :lol:
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Post by RoginaJack » 01 Feb 2016, 9:26 pm

Hi Zachary, Welcome to the group and as everyone else has stated, Yes you do and at all times. One other thing I'd look further into is the "Target shooting on private property" thing. Are there any conditions or regulations to be met.

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Re: Minor shooting on private property laws

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 02 Feb 2016, 8:00 am

I was of the understanding 'target shooting' on private property in QLD unless specifically approved as a range, is a no-no.....

I might be wrong, but make sure before, read the weapons act/regs....

In Vic we have specific conditions then we CAN target shoot, as in setting up a target to shoot at.

Was is not in QLD (NSW??) were that infamous episode of those young people 'target shooting' resulted in the full-on 'SWAT' raid, chopper and all..... because some young people were shooting with, probably a high powered long range sniper enhanced rimfire :roll:

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Post by TheDude » 02 Feb 2016, 8:39 am

Yeah that was Logan. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 1b84b8c1ca

Never heard any more on that. If the land is zoned rural and only the guy with the license was shooting then they didn't do anything illegal.
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Post by happyhunter » 02 Feb 2016, 8:48 am

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Post by sbd3927 » 02 Feb 2016, 12:33 pm

No I'm not target shooting, I'm using a piece of white paper to backlight flies, and trying to hit them mid air... nothing about hunting on private property stipulates what you must be hunting... :lol:
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Post by Redwood » 11 Feb 2016, 9:45 am

<<Genesis93>> wrote:In Vic we have specific conditions then we CAN target shoot, as in setting up a target to shoot at.


We're not "target shooting", we're "sighting in" very thoroughly ;)
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Post by AnotherMisfire » 11 Feb 2016, 8:55 pm

Zachary wrote:Hello I'm 16 years old from Queensland and I currently own .22 and a .177

I was wondering what are the laws for private property shooting?

Does my Father (Over 18 Full Licence) have to be present on the farm well I am Hunting / Target shooting.

All comments would be greatly appreciated.


Section 52 of the Qld Weapons Act:

Physical possession and use of weapon sometimes allowed for the purpose of training a minor
(1) A minor who is at least 11 years may have physical possession of and use a category A or B weapon or a category M crossbow in a place where it is lawful to physically possess and use a category A or B weapon or a category M crossbow if—
(a) the minor is under the direct and immediate supervision of a parent, guardian or another person who is acting in the place of a parent or guardian; and
(b) the parent, guardian or other person is licensed to possess the weapon.
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Post by GLS_1956 » 15 Feb 2016, 5:13 am

Dear LORD, what has the world come to? We just lost one of our conservative Supreme Court Justices. Too many leftist elitists would love to see the USA gun community reduced to what you in Australia have been forced to endure.
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Post by happyhunter » 15 Feb 2016, 7:22 am

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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 15 Feb 2016, 10:04 am

happyhunter wrote:
GLS_1956 wrote:Dear LORD, what has the world come to? We just lost one of our conservative Supreme Court Justices. Too many leftist elitists would love to see the USA gun community reduced to what you in Australia have been forced to endure.


Scalia used common sense. Hope his replacement works out well for you guys.



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Post by chacka » 22 Feb 2016, 1:28 pm

happyhunter wrote:You don't even have to break the law to get arrested these days. That sucks.


How about the defence force guy who had everyone descent on him because he was running around training with a stick painted black and he got reported as running around with an automatic rifle :lol:
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Post by MalleeFarmer » 23 Feb 2016, 9:17 pm

happyhunter wrote:
GLS_1956 wrote:Dear LORD, what has the world come to? We just lost one of our conservative Supreme Court Justices. Too many leftist elitists would love to see the USA gun community reduced to what you in Australia have been forced to endure.


Scalia used common sense. Hope his replacement works out well for you guys.


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Post by brett1868 » 23 Feb 2016, 9:29 pm

How about the defence force guy who had everyone descent on him because he was running around training with a stick painted black and he got reported as running around with an automatic rifle :lol:


Yeah, but it was a high powered automatic rifle :) If he was wearing black robes then he'd be fine as no one up there wants to offend a minority...
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Post by brett1868 » 23 Feb 2016, 11:12 pm

Minors shooting on private land shouldn't be an issue providing they have the appropriate juniors permit and are properly supervised and both have owners permission. My son has 19 months before he can get a junior's permit so I'll use this time to teach him some bushcraft, navigation, first aid and basic ballistics so he'll hit the ground with some useful knowledge. There's plenty of things for the boy to do when out hunting, he helps to spot and range the target and learns new words when dad both hits or misses :)

Personally I don't have a problem with kids learning to shoot as soon as they can show respect for the safety aspects, I had a 22LR and a 12ga before I turned 10. Those were the old days of the 70's where it was considered normal and part of growing up in the bush. The reason I don't let the boy shoot in this country is that by doing so without the proper permit the first thing he learns is dad is breaking the law which isn't responsible nor sets a good example. I'll do it all by the book when the time comes so it reinforces how important it is to be responsible and follow the rules.
The other reason not to break the rules by letting him shoot unlicensed is that kids have big giant mouths, if the teacher hears something and takes it the wrong way, I could be in a world of pain. My son has never seen the contents of the safes and knows that if the safe door is open he needs to get my attention so I can close it before he's allowed in. How many times have you told your kid "Don't tell mum" only to have them run up to mum..."Dad said don't tell you this but...." and I'm the one copping and ear bashing from the Russian Princess.
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Post by AnotherMisfire » 24 Feb 2016, 8:03 am

Thumbs up to Brett's view. Many a shooter has had a hard time because of Chinese whispers.

God forbid the missus gets bitter in a breakup and decides to spin a yarn to the police about you not being suitable for a gun licence. even if it's completely made up, that could be a year of your shooting life gone!
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Post by happyhunter » 24 Feb 2016, 8:30 am

AnotherMisfire wrote:Thumbs up to Brett's view. Many a shooter has had a hard time because of Chinese whispers.

God forbid the missus gets bitter in a breakup and decides to spin a yarn to the police about you not being suitable for a gun licence. even if it's completely made up, that could be a year of your shooting life gone!


That happened to a neighbour mate of mine. She put an AVO on him and they took his rifles. At the court hearing it became obvious she was lying and he got his rifles back although the process did cost him $2500 in solicitor costs.
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Post by Gwion » 24 Feb 2016, 9:37 am

happyhunter wrote:
AnotherMisfire wrote:Thumbs up to Brett's view. Many a shooter has had a hard time because of Chinese whispers.

God forbid the missus gets bitter in a breakup and decides to spin a yarn to the police about you not being suitable for a gun licence. even if it's completely made up, that could be a year of your shooting life gone!



That happened to a neighbour mate of mine. She put an AVO on him and they took his rifles. At the court hearing it became obvious she was lying and he got his rifles back although the process did cost him $2500 in solicitor costs.



In those cases, i reckon if it costs the aggrieved party money to clear their name and it is found to be false allegations, whoever is lying should be made to pay court costs and damages as vexatious litigation.
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Post by MalleeFarmer » 24 Feb 2016, 7:24 pm

I've already taught my 2 yo which end of a gun is dangerous now he points at the muzzle and says ooh, ooh. Agree about not letting them use a firearm until they have their permit.
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Post by ebr love » 01 Mar 2016, 1:09 pm

AnotherMisfire wrote:God forbid the missus gets bitter in a breakup and decides to spin a yarn to the police about you not being suitable for a gun licence. even if it's completely made up, that could be a year of your shooting life gone!


Wasn't one of those knobs from the greens wanting to implement that?

Might have been NSW or QLD I think?

Idea was anyway before issuing an firearms licenses the registry would call your ex partners and ask if they thought you were suitable.

What a f***ing joke.
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