Greens - policies....animals & firearms...a must read

[<<Genesis93>>]

The greens VIC have previously had very little on the way of formal firearm policy that I could recall, I know the NSW greens had their lengthy wishlist with many of the items being part of the NFA...(ye theyre up to speed alright) dont know if theyve revise it yet...

But the Vic-tards have a policy online in readiness for the campaign... its a shocker, and a must read if you truly wish to understand the beast that is this communist movement. It is simply not compatible with our accepted way of life and to put even some of these ridiculous policies into law would see our lives change drastically. I would describe their brain fart as a massive devolution of humanity (as in the opposite of evolution).

I know there are lots of hunters and shooters who care for the environment and perhaps in a false sense of unity for the environment vote green or are perhaps thinking of voting green for these reasons....newsflash - lots if not most shooters CARE for the environment and the welfare of the quarry as well as the domesticated farmed species... but humanity along with a comfortable way of life comes first. The greens are more so concerned with changing our lifestyles, restricting our freedoms and movements in the natural environment, returning as much of that natural environment to the 'wildlife' (refer wildlands project) and removing meat from our diet.

Animals policy examples;http://greens.org.au/sites/greens.org.au/files/Animals%20Policy.pdf

Their intrinsic worth is separate from the needs of humans,

Environmental damage caused by industries using animals or animal products should be effectively controlled or eliminated ??

An end to farming practices that are inconsistent with animals’ natural behavioural needs, and a phasing out of all intensive farming practices

Its just monumentally ridiculous....The implementation of systems that allow animals to satisfy their basic needs for natural physical movement, space, rest and interaction with others of their species. why not let the cute lambs interact with the foes... they have need too!!

banning the sale of live animals from pet shops

The continued banning of the commercial killing of kangaroos and other wildlife.

The effective control or elimination of populations of feral and pest animals by the most humane methods feasible...... which is??

The end of cruel methods of animal control, including the use of leg-hold traps and poison baits such as 1080. so no trap, no poison....

Thats right, tranquilise them all and fix them... isnt that the grouse idea to resolve the kangaroo population explosion?

The end of recreational hunting on public land.

A ban on the recreational shooting of native water birds



And firearm policy, as part of the justice stupidity?http://greens.org.au/sites/greens.org.au/files/Justice%20Policy.pdf

To progress gun law reform, including prohibition of the possession and use of semi-automatic hand guns in the community
We know they want the semi-autos gone... but the way they phrase it - its a work in progress... standard Fabian creeping socialism...bit by bit....

Reducing access to guns in society is essential to reducing crime. of course it is....theres another unicorn with a rainbow emanating from an orifice...

some of the other items as just as preposterous, CCTV as a last resort, dont want their supporters getting nabbed....
and 'racial profiling'
The prohibition of racial profiling, and the arbitrary use of racial descriptors by police or other government agencies
So, for example the current gang thats going around breaking into homes, with guns and baseball bats stealing car keys OR car-jacking, mostly BMW / Audi etc cars/suvs; they are mostly AFRICAN, probably Sudanese, but the authorities must not report them as black... FFS.

[adam]

Most people I've talked to that have voted for the greens are completely ignorant of the majority of their policies and have never even visited their website.

I'm convinced that the greens would lost the majority of their support if people were a little less lazy and apathetic about voting and actually took some interest in what the greens have on their own website.

[<<Genesis93>>]

The one single policy that should dissuade any peace loving, proud Australian would be their open border policy, they want the borders gone, not only do they want us to accept ALL comers, refugees, immigrants, but sarah 2-fathers even suggested that WE go to the other countries and pick up the prospective refugees... you know, so they dont have to go on the dangerous sea voyage.... the greens are more of a threat to our national security than the chinese army....

[on_one_wheel]

Cool, so just another list of unsustainable policies from the greens.
Have no fear, only the greens take the greens seriously.

[adam]

Have no fear, only the greens take the greens seriously.

Unfortunately this is not the case. These guys have serious power - especially if there's a minority government. Many deals have been done, and policies changed because of the greens influence.

[Supaduke]

My best mates brother-in-law was chatting to me at a BBQ. We somehow got around to politics (I know , dumb move). I mentioned that I thought most of the greens policies bordered on a dictatorship and the arrogant nature of their "we know best, we will tell you how to live" agenda. He said he would be voting for the greens , I asked why. He said "Dunno man, don't they save whales and sh1t". (Facepalm)

I have also noticed that many Green's supporters are very hostile and aggressive towards anyone who dares to disagree or challenge their policies. They can be especially bile filled hate machines when given access to social media where they can spout off without any recourse. Anytime you have the temerity to disagree and challenge them with facts it usually ends with being called a Nazi etc.

[<<Genesis93>>]

the last labor government was a minority-greens government, along with the other sell outs.
The problem is that those who may have previously voted lib or lab, but no longer support the big 2..... fall back on the greens, quite frankly their ignorance of the true intent of the greens allows them to vote green.

Last election it was something like 12%....this time??? Thats a significant chunk of the electorate.

[Supaduke]

As mentioned, the ignorance of many Green's voters , casting their vote because of the perceived feel good environmentalism, is scary. Many are just oblivious to the greens real intentions.

[adam]

I'd like to see an add campaign exposing the greens for what they really stand for. It wouldn't need to be a slang match to dig up dirt - just screenshots of their own website would be enough... Might get some people thinking...

But Labour and Liberal are both too busy fighting each other, and who else has the $'s to spend on such a campaign. Would be good for all the other minor parties to get together and do a joint add...

[RoginaJack]

Well, that's come as a complete shock! I didn't realise that the Greens had any policies! Sp basically it's not about saving the cute cuddly animals but changing everyone to a Vegetarian lifestyle "because we know best!"

[Noisydad]

Have no fear, only the greens take the greens seriously.

Unfortunately this is not the case. These guys have serious power - especially if there's a minority government. Many deals have been done, and policies changed because of the greens influence.

With an expected TWO MILLION license holders (by Christmas this year) we're now in a position to do the same on a national scale for the first time!

[MalleeFarmer]

I'd like to see an add campaign exposing the greens for what they really stand for. It wouldn't need to be a slang match to dig up dirt - just screenshots of their own website would be enough... Might get some people thinking...

But Labour and Liberal are both too busy fighting each other, and who else has the $'s to spend on such a campaign. Would be good for all the other minor parties to get together and do a joint add...

Both labour and liberal know they need the greens there are stories of a liberal greens preference deal no doubt involving the NFA Review and possible the Great Forest National park.. the liberals and labour are all prostitutes to whoever will get them in power regardless of their party's official policies. VOTE SFFP or LDP!! I might go SFFP then Family First. LDP have some suspect policies though I'd rather UNIVERSAL FREEDOM of the LDP than UNIVERSAL SLAVERY of the GREENS..

[<<Genesis93>>]

Billy Shortening said Labor would never co-align with the greens.... never ever... so in other words its a done deal...

[MalleeFarmer]

Billy Shortening said Labor would never co-align with the greens.... never ever... so in other words its a done deal...

Yes I suppose we can have some faith in the major parties after all we can be certain they'll do everything they say they won't

[bigfellascott]

I like the Greens, it makes identifying retards easy as (they usually have a very pale, emaciated drug f***ed look about em and stink to high heaven of BO and wear hippy s**t with a 100 in 1 piercings hanging out of em and generally display homosexual or lesbian tendencies from what I've seen of em.

What we really need is a policy that makes it mandatory to remove them from the gene pool permanently, sadly none exists as of yet, we live in hope though.

[MalleeFarmer]

I like the Greens, it makes identifying retards easy as (they usually have a very pale, emaciated drug f***ed look about em and stink to high heaven of BO and wear hippy s**t with a 100 in 1 piercings hanging out of em and generally display homosexual or lesbian tendencies from what I've seen of em.

What we really need is a policy that makes it mandatory to remove them from the gene pool permanently, sadly none exists as of yet, we live in hope though.

this bloke!!! ^^^^^^^ is on the money!!!

[<<Genesis93>>]

I like the Greens, it makes identifying retards easy as (they usually have a very pale, emaciated drug f***ed look about em and stink to high heaven of BO and wear hippy s**t with a 100 in 1 piercings hanging out of em and generally display homosexual or lesbian tendencies from what I've seen of em.

What we really need is a policy that makes it mandatory to remove them from the gene pool permanently, sadly none exists as of yet, we live in hope though.

but its the ones who dont have BO, no 100 piercings, not particularly homo looking that you need to worry about... the ones with the energy to go the distance

....and blend in with the more 'normal' people...

[Title_II]

Enough. I'm invading.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Billy Shortening said Labor would never co-align with the greens.... never ever... so in other words its a done deal...

...and overnight we hear the Labor has made an about face; NOW processing of refugees will occur ON SHORE..... luckily the voters have such short memories...

ON top of that obvious green concession, we have Billy boy 'policising' (I think I invented a word) a renewable energy target of 50% by 2030!!.... THAT is fantastical...as in of 'fantasy' and conveniently well away from his presumptive term in office.

Lets look at our present generation status;

Current renewable generation is about 15% of total generation. Half of this is hydro, with 29% of the hydro being in Tasmania, which is current producing or consuming energy??

So we can effectively discount any new hydro infrastructure, if not for the effects of drought, but for the enviro warriors that would fight any proposal to the death (Franklin anyone)... even though Victoria has almost limitless resources that flood a good part of the east every year and flow out into the ocean....

So, we are aiming to increase the 7.5% share to say 42.5% (50%-7.5%) in 14years, which at the current rate of use would represent a 566% increase in capacity of solar, wind, geothermal, biogas.... consider the current level took 20 years to double WITH the countless million or billions thrown at it...

Then consider the increase demand from natural population growth + the future waves of economic refugees....566% may well become 700 or 800%... So who's paying for this 8x the current renewable generation infrastructure??

We mightn't be able to afford to eat in the future... but we will be able to rest assured that the energy we cant afford to consume... is 50% renewable!

[happyhunter]

Inner city greens = communists. Their ideas are totalitarian and would require a true police state to enforce. Greens is not an environmental movement.

[Mick280]

Stalin would be proud!!!

[Stubbles McBeard]

Enough. I'm invading.

I'll put the beers on ice and start the bbq. We're waiting for you.

[Noisydad]

Then consider the increase demand from natural population growth + the future waves of economic refugees....566% may well become 700 or 800%... So who's paying for this 8x the current renewable generation infrastructure??

We mightn't be able to afford to eat in the future... but we will be able to rest assured that the energy we cant afford to consume... is 50% renewable!

Now consider that the Greens want to import 50,000 "refos" per year which is the the equivalent of the city of Albury, NSW per year. I wonder can a city that size even be built that quickly and where's their water and food coming from?

[MalleeFarmer]

I wonder who "Dear Leader" is going to be if the greens get the balance?

[on_one_wheel]

Have no fear, only the greens take the greens seriously.

Unfortunately this is not the case. These guys have serious power - especially if there's a minority government. Many deals have been done, and policies changed because of the greens influence.

With an expected TWO MILLION license holders (by Christmas this year) we're now in a position to do the same on a national scale for the first time!

Excellent!

Now we just need to work out how to vote as one.

I recon there be lots of license holders who will not care for gun politics and vote as per usual. ...
( insert sheep noises here )

I have asked the shooters fishers farmers party if they wll put out a how to vote guide. .. they said yes but I've seen nothing yet.

Anyhow that's how I'm voting

Not that I'm sure that they could get our economy up to scratch ?. ... perhaps they can ? Surely they cand do much worse than our current situation.
But given enough seats, they'll have a say.

I sure hope the greens loose more than a few seats.

The name Shooters Fishers farmers party is unfortunate. ... Plenty of fence sitting people wouldn't vote for them because of guns,
Guns kill people don't they ?

They need a more collective /everything in general name like The Australian People's Party

[MalleeFarmer]

I wonder who "Dear Leader" is going to be if the greens get the balance?

[on_one_wheel]

Enough. I'm invading.

I'd happily fly the American flag at my house if I could have your freedom.

Hurry up and invade.

[on_one_wheel]

I wonder who "Dear Leader" is going to be if the greens get the balance?

Do you mean the balance of power?
I'm a bit lost in the terms

[<<Genesis93>>]

I wonder who "Dear Leader" is going to be if the greens get the balance?

Politically.... irrelevant. just a de facto figure head of a leader that doesnt exist in law, other than remuneration law.

We only have a 'Prime Minister' because we have alway had one, not because the constitution requires one- doesnt even mention PM, neither 'political parties'.......

Most people dont know who the Australian head of state is, fewer could actually name him/her....many could quite possibly believe the captain of the favorite footy team to be the HoS...

Many will actually believe thet're voting for either BS(unfortunate initials) or MT, but we know the faceless few actually choose the PM, and they do what those same faceless few desire, hence Mal Turdfull didnt legislate gay marriage and a 95% renewable target....

[Title_II]

Enough. I'm invading.

I'll put the beers on ice and start the bbq. We're waiting for you.

Great! Thanks.

Enough. I'm invading.

I'd happily fly the American flag at my house if I could have your freedom.

Hurry up and invade.

I will rule with an iron fist. Eventually you will get sick of me and throw me out, but at least it will be at gunpoint after I have fixed this nonsense.