The Election.

[tom604]

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I like cheese.

[tom604]

what about that david hicks ? might as well go all the way off the rails

[<<Genesis93>>]

Or this:

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Everything old is new again...



Bill introduced in Georgia, USA back in 1996...

Georgia House of Representatives - 1995/1996 Sessions
HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/Arc ... hb1274.htm

[on_one_wheel]

I can't believe that the Lez from American Jewelry and Loans just got fleeced for $5000 on a counterfeit watch

[Oldbloke]

Why not, its quick.

[adam]

When was superiority mentioned?

By the haters... this is how they work.

Pauline stands for something that they hate. They can't argue against her policies because unlike some other politicians she priorities truth and facts above political correctness.

They can't fight on the merits of their own objections because they have no true merits themselves.

So they twist what she says into the closest "anti current popular political correct fad" that's around - and target her that way... (in this case Racism).

From what I've witnessed about the majority of people who accuse others of racism - it's bull. They spin, and in many cases they are being the greater of the racists as opposed to those who they accuse. Same goes with those who accuse people of bigotry, or being intolerant. They're convinced of their own superiority that only those who agree with them have the right to free speech or a seat in parliament. It takes being hypocritical to a new level.

[Baronvonrort]

As far as the current calls of 'RACIST!" echoing around the joint at Pauline because she want the royal commish into Islam..... someone needs to tell the presstitutes and sundry mouthpieces that Islam is not a .....um..... race.......yeah, details, shemtails....

There are many sahih ahadith that say prophet Muhammad was a white man.

Jihad Jane is a blonde hair blue eyed American woman in jail on terror charges, the Bosnian muslims are white this video has English subtitles so you can understand what it's about-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0G7zmbfIh0

[on_one_wheel]

A modern day witch hunt that will once again be heavily sponsored by the media. She wont be able to look sideways without being demonised.

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Oh .... it's already happening. A thousands of lovely photos of Pauline and they decided to use this one.

Pauline Hanson has seats because her veiws best reflect the opinions of a large number of people... like it or lump it, she's in and it will be a good thing to is lafo's.

Parliament house cannot function without extreme left and extreme right.

What we have seen in recent times is the 2 majors neither of which are acting left or right, both sitting on the fence.
These parties care about one thing only, their pay packages firstly, getting voted back in again and trying to win everyone over by being both left and right.
I recon we are seeing the same in the States, Hillary and Obama are both leaning towards the left. Both anti gun, both pro open boarders .... hello Trump.

We actually need the Pauline Hanso'ns, Bob Katter's, Ricky Muir's and so on to make democracy function.

[Gwion]

Pauline stands for something that they hate. They can't argue against her policies because unlike some other politicians she priorities truth and facts above political correctness.

Hanson's policies are very thinly veiled appeal to those who want to go back to the 'white Australia policy'. Beyond that, there is very little, if any, substance to anything she has to say.

Last time it was "we are being over run by asians!!!", this time it's, "we are being over run by muslims!!!"

Same arguments, same rhetoric as before. They will 'take over'. They will destroy "our culture". They wont "assimilate". They should 'talk english'. They have a barbaric, sub human history... yada yada yada...

Sounds very reminiscent of 1930's Germany.
Also sounds exactly like how this country was founded (minus the 'talk english').

"Royal Commission into Islam"?
A royal commission into exactly what about islam?
Then, after she has installed mandatory & permanent surveillance for all muslims; what next? Identity chips to control their movements across state boarders?
No muslim may own any object that may be used as a weapon?
Muslims can only hold certain occupations?
Force all muslims in Australia to live in one remote country town that has full "One Nation" control over food supply???

Many Australians are acutely aware that under the "White Australia Policy", not only could immigrating non whites NOT obtain residence or citizenship, but our own indigenous people where listed as "fauna" until the mid 1930's! Aside from all the other atrocities committed, this alone is enough to make the majority of Australian very skeptical of any message that vaguely smacks of, "we are a white christian nation and want to stay that way". Because most Australians do not agree with this.

This is why Pauline Hanson is so broadly ridiculed in Australia.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Well... I'm utterly disgusted, even the incumbent parliamentarians have stated she's 'not welcome' and various statements that they wont 'work' with her...

This BS of when it suits them its 'all sweet', otherwise...just like the changing of the voting procedures to 'clean house'....(how did that go?)

THE PEOPLE voted her in, so now, she is no longer a random commentator that Sunrise pay for click bait ratings.... Her presence is the presence of every single elector in her constituency..... and IF she pushed for self defence (firearms!) she will be representing a good number of Australians....

I hope One Nation get the 6 seats Pauline hopes for, as unlikely as it may be... net time I'll damn well put O.N. no.1...... I regret I didnt do it this time, thats probably a more common sentiment than some would like to accept...

As far as extremism and bigoted views - there is NO group / individuals MORE so than the greens, you cant discuss ANY topic with them, is there anthropogenic global warming ?? You cant debate it, if you disagree you are lots of derogatory things including the favourite a 'denialist' .... being a term used specifically to associate with Holocaust denialism...

What about gay marriage, same thing, if you disagree, for whatever reason then you're against equal right and YOU are a bigot...

I'm my particular book, someone who has a predetermined opinion, dismisses any counter argument, refuses to question either opinion and directs disparaging remarks and terms to the 'other' side.... thats extremism and bigotry

then there's the current global misandrist movement masquerading as feminism, ooooooooooohhhhaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh I need another coffee

[Baronvonrort]

"Royal Commission into Islam"?
A royal commission into exactly what about islam?
Then, after she has installed mandatory & permanent surveillance for all muslims; what next? .

I think Pauline wants the royal commission into islam to show it's also a political ideology that governs in many parts of the world, many of the political aspects of Islam are not compatible with human rights.
Death for apostasy which 13 countries with Islam as the state religion have is a clear violation of article 18 of the universal declaration of human rights.

Under article 18 of the UDHR people are allowed to believe in fairy tales which we cannot outlaw without violating human rights, we can outlaw political Islam by not allowing sharia law, our constitution prevents us from having religious laws yet that has not stopped the Australian federation of Islamic councils making numerous submissions to parliament for legal pluralism for muslims to have aspects of sharia law.
I should note the Buddhists made one submission to parliament saying our laws are fine they can fit in no need to change anything.

The UK allowed sharia law for muslims under an arbitration loophole, there is a campaign to rid the UK of these sharia courts brought in by do gooding idiots.
http://www.onelawforall.org.uk

Japan put their muslim community under surveillance perhaps that is where Pauline got the idea, nobody criticises Japan for this.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 09761.html

We spend millions on programs to deradicalise muslims, we spend millions on terror prevention yet if we speak out about this some call us islamophobes which is a word that is technically and logically incorrect

[Gwion]

Ok. But we do have separation of church and state. We have laws that govern Australians, not some Australians and not others. I agree we should allow no concessions for sharia law or any other law that is contrary to the laws of Australia and i don't think we are in danger of that happening because, as you point out, it is unconstitutional..

As for no-one criticising Japan. I had no idea they had religiously based surveillance and i'm quite happy to criticise them for it!

AS for human rights violations in muslim regimes; while it is absolutely abhorrent; we do have our own human rights issues, both past and present, to face. They may not be center stage in Australia, but internationally there are larger question marks over some of our policies and practices for both indigenous and refugees. Maybe we should be facing these instead of worrying that the muslims will take over and start stoning the infidels!??!

[Baronvonrort]

Ok. But we do have separation of church and state. We have laws that govern Australians, not some Australians and not others. I agree we should allow no concessions for sharia law or any other law that is contrary to the laws of Australia and i don't think we are in danger of that happening because, as you point out, it is unconstitutional..

As for no-one criticising Japan. I had no idea they had religiously based surveillance and i'm quite happy to criticise them for it!

AS for human rights violations in muslim regimes; while it is absolutely abhorrent; we do have our own human rights issues, both past and present, to face.

The Islamic countries don't follow the UDHR they have their Cairo Declaration of human rights which the last 2 articles show sharia law trumps human rights.

Ikebal Patel from the AFIC has made numerous submissions to parliament asking for aspects of sharia law , the devout muslims will keep asking because their beliefs call for it and we have to keep rejecting it.

Take a few minutes and listen to the pommy Abu Mounisa on sharia law, it's so absurd you could think the Monty Python team wrote this for him,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYktM-4Vspg

[Gwion]

Those damned Irish, the yellow peril, all them wogs, bloody Africans, not to mention the queers that come to our country and take our jobs n steal our women!
Once the Muslims start cooking we'll accept them, the way to a countries heart is through its stomach.
Our kids n grandkids will find someone else to hate and I for one hope it's the Dutch. Pot smoking bicycle ride windmill loving freaks..........

Oi! My mother was Dutch, buddy! LOL


Baron: I get that Sharia law IS BAD.

Point is, there will be no sharia law here, so there's no point getting all in a tizz about it.

They can keep asking and we can keep saying NO.

[bladeracer]

Baron: I get that Sharia law IS BAD.

Point is, there will be no sharia law here, so there's no point getting all in a tizz about it.

They can keep asking and we can keep saying NO.

What do we do when they do a deal with the Greens?
The Greens will stop at NOTHING to further their agenda.

More realistically though, what happens when we have a large number of Muslims in our senate, will they still say no?

[Baronvonrort]

Baron: I get that Sharia law IS BAD.

Point is, there will be no sharia law here, so there's no point getting all in a tizz about it.

They can keep asking and we can keep saying NO.

It's already here they don't need our permission to officially have it.

I know a muslim lady who remarried after her husband left her for having 2 girls, her husband has another wife and family he only spends half the week with her.All paid for by Centrelink and dept of housing.This taxpayer funded polygamy is rifle in the western part of Sydney.

This muslim married a 12 year old girl in Sydney, there is no minimum age for marriage under Islamic law, when they tried to bring it in in Yemen the clerics said anyone who supports this law is an apostate, they have the death penalty for apostasy in Yemen.
www.smh.com.au/nsw/child-bride-case-man ... 3xa99.html

[Gwion]

If people are practicing elements of Sharia Law that contravene the laws of Australia or it's constitution, then they stand open to prosecution and penalty for breaking the laws of the land. They are, in effect, criminals like any other.

It doesn't matter how many muslims are in the senate, they cannot allow a law that is unconstitutional. Well, they can, but it cannot be upheld by the courts, as it is unconstitutional.

[adam]

Pauline stands for something that they hate. They can't argue against her policies because unlike some other politicians she priorities truth and facts above political correctness.

Hanson's policies are very thinly veiled appeal to those who want to go back to the 'white Australia policy'. Beyond that, there is very little, if any, substance to anything she has to say.

http://www.gwb.com.au/onenation/speeches/sept97b.html

[Baronvonrort]

The truth is the best weapon against Islam, the war on terror will ultimately be won with words not weapons as it really is a battle between ideologies.

If muslims whinge about alcohol and want it banned I suggest changing the subject to how they drink camel urine, no muslim will ever say Muhammad was wrong about anything and that includes his quackery on drinking camel urine.
Drinking camel urine can fix bad backs and even cure baldness, try google for camel urine.lmao
http://www.islamqa.info/en/83423 ,asking why is the urine from Bedouin camels better gets a god response.

See how easy it is to defend alcohol

Edited to point out the Quran does allow alcohol, Muhammad outlawed it after muslims turned up for prayers while drunk, Muhsin Khan's translation points this out
www.quran.com/16/67
This is a contradiction in the Quran, muslims will deny there are contradictions in the Quran because the fine print says it's not from Allah if there are contradictions.
www.quran.com/4/82

[bladeracer]

If people are practicing elements of Sharia Law that contravene the laws of Australia or it's constitution, then they stand open to prosecution and penalty for breaking the laws of the land. They are, in effect, criminals like any other.

It doesn't matter how many muslims are in the senate, they cannot allow a law that is unconstitutional. Well, they can, but it cannot be upheld by the courts, as it is unconstitutional.

Aren't the motorcycle association laws unconstitutional?
Wasn't taking firearms from legal law-abiding owners unconstitutional?
Isn't the assumption of guilt from speed camera fines unconstitutional?
Why couldn't they amend the constitution to make it "constitutional"?

[Gwion]

A good speech in support of firearms owners. It comes under the "very little, if any" clause of my statement.

It does not excuse or cancel out the mountains of crap, blatantly racist remarks and underlying drivers behind her politics.

[Gwion]

If people are practicing elements of Sharia Law that contravene the laws of Australia or it's constitution, then they stand open to prosecution and penalty for breaking the laws of the land. They are, in effect, criminals like any other.

It doesn't matter how many muslims are in the senate, they cannot allow a law that is unconstitutional. Well, they can, but it cannot be upheld by the courts, as it is unconstitutional.

Aren't the motorcycle association laws unconstitutional? in what way?
Wasn't taking firearms from legal law-abiding owners unconstitutional? apparently covered by the fair and just compensation clause: even if it is against 'the vibe' of it all.
Isn't the assumption of guilt from speed camera fines unconstitutional? in what way? it is taken as proof of violation, which can be challenged in court, like any other charge.
Why couldn't they amend the constitution to make it "constitutional"? because that is unconstitutional and would require a referendum in which the entire country votes.

[on_one_wheel]

Meanwhile, on a country right under your own feet.
Derryn Hinch is aiming to ban recreational fishing because if fish could scream the world would be a better place for them.
He's also aftet the live export industry ... looks like we have 2 green partys now.

[bladeracer]

Why couldn't they amend the constitution to make it "constitutional"? because that is unconstitutional and would require a referendum in which the entire country votes.

[/quote]


Sure, and as more of Australia becomes Muslim how long do you see that working?
Australian Muslims now outnumber Aboriginal Australians, and it's increasing rapidly, and they are in politics.

Your view only works if the population remains stagnant, in my opinion, and that is not an option.

[Gwion]

There's a big leap from 476,000 muslims to 11.565Million muslims. As "green" and "left wing" as some demographics may be in Australia, there is no way they will vote in favour of female mutilation, a ban on female education, a return to corporal or capital punishment.... etc, etc. Actually, this is exactly because they are 'left wing'. Given a referendum, i doubt you'd even get 50% vote in favour of Sharia Law from Australian muslims, as many of them would have emigrated here to get away from it!

I think some are getting their knickers in a twist over something that is never going to happen.

On the other hand... Deryn Hinch is doing WHAT!???!

[on_one_wheel]

Muslims .... who cares .... they'll be no trouble here while we still have Jebus and the Church.

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[bladeracer]

I don't believe it will happen either, but I don't believe it _can't_ happen.
As long as Australians remain vigilant then we can stay on top of it.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Those damned Irish, the yellow peril, all them wogs, bloody Africans, not to mention the queers that come to our country and take our jobs n steal our women!
Once the Muslims start cooking we'll accept them, the way to a countries heart is through its stomach.
Our kids n grandkids will find someone else to hate and I for one hope it's the Dutch. Pot smoking bicycle ride windmill loving freaks..........

There are only two things I can't stand in this world.
People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch

[adam]

A good speech in support of firearms owners. It comes under the "very little, if any" clause of my statement.

It does not excuse or cancel out the mountains of crap, blatantly racist remarks and underlying drivers behind her politics.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

All I've heard that's been crap is the twist that the media and posts on social media have said about her. There's been a few things I've heard her say that I disagree with, but for the most part she focuses more on questions of interest or concerns than most other politicians with the problem being that those questions or statements come across as being <insert whatever 'ist' you want in here>.

If those facts are unpopular, politically incorrect or offend any particular minority (or majority) groups well - the truth means more to me than popularity or political correctness. I like that she supports free speech. If she's wrong about something - I don't care... because someone can debate it and prove her wrong. Unlike what the others want which is to shut up all opposition without a debate and take our freedom of speech away.

I didn't vote her as a priority this time around, but with the amount of baseless crap that's being thrown at her, and then comparing it with the stuff that I have heard from her - I'd be tempted to put her at the top of the list if we have a re-election, and from pub talk I know I'm not the only one.

If Mal wants a re-election he might find it less favorable than the current results.

[Baronvonrort]

Don't ask for a bacon and cheese zinger at Punchbowl KFC, according to the census a demographic that is 20% in that area caused this change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjnrbVxcRXw

The next KFC down the road at Milperra is the one that had the shootout which saw the truck driver Bob Knight killed by a stray bullet