Buying a .22

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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Gwion » 09 Jul 2016, 1:15 pm

Never heard of it, Gen93?

Bullet acts like a piston and forces grease into high pressure and can cause barrel bulges. Same reason you patch oil dry before shooting. My tbolt took quite some scrubbing and patching to get al the grease out.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 09 Jul 2016, 1:39 pm

Gwion wrote:Never heard of it, Gen93?

Bullet acts like a piston and forces grease into high pressure and can cause barrel bulges. Same reason you patch oil dry before shooting. My tbolt took quite some scrubbing and patching to get al the grease out.

Yes mate, I know to what phenomena you refer..... I actually know a little about hydraulics and fluid dynamics ;) but not the word you used to describe it :thumbsup:
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Oldbloke » 09 Jul 2016, 2:16 pm

Obviously meant hydraulics, must be a typo.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Gwion » 09 Jul 2016, 2:30 pm

Well, I was sure I had heard/read it referred to as something similar. Sorry I didn't refer to a fluid dynamics technical manual before posting but at least you got a chance to nit pick on some trivial detail to detract from someone trying to help.
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 09 Jul 2016, 2:50 pm

Gwion wrote:Well, I was sure I had heard/read it referred to as something similar. Sorry I didn't refer to a fluid dynamics technical manual before posting but at least you got a chance to nit pick on some trivial detail to detract from someone trying to help.


No worries :thumbsup: will let it go this time ;)
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 09 Jul 2016, 4:36 pm

Ye, had a look, looks clean enough... re optics, no optics.

Re: speed loader - McDonalds straws are perfect for that, going to go pick some up now :)
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by gunnerjacky » 09 Jul 2016, 4:42 pm

I would suggest an alternative - Ruger 10/22. It is reviewed as best .22 rifle. I don't know any reason why one should not buy this piece of art. Make sure you have license to buy the gun. Since, I'm in Massachusetts, I am very concerned about gun laws.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Supaduke » 09 Jul 2016, 4:59 pm

juststarting wrote:Ye, had a look, looks clean enough... re optics, no optics.

Re: speed loader - McDonalds straws are perfect for that, going to go pick some up now :)


True, but can you load up 120 rounds then throw it in your range bag and not have them go everywhere..

In all seriousness , I ummed and ahhhed for a little while about getting one. Once down the range/plinking area however you realise how quickly you can rattle through your 15 rounds. Being able to reload in about 4 seconds is pretty sweet. A few people also suggest loading a different round as the last one to help you know your empty. On my Henry the last round chambered has a slightly different feel as there is no round behind it. Brownings may be different. Very nice little rifles though. Very satisfying working a lever.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 09 Jul 2016, 5:14 pm

gunnerjacky wrote:I would suggest an alternative - Ruger 10/22. It is reviewed as best .22 rifle. I don't know any reason why one should not buy this piece of art. Make sure you have license to buy the gun. Since, I'm in Massachusetts, I am very concerned about gun laws.


Not available to us here, on recreational shooters license.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by AusTac » 10 Jul 2016, 12:46 am

Very nice bud, a bit new-old school, how do you find the flat grip? Does it help with all that levering?
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 10 Jul 2016, 1:07 am

Today's trip (well, technically yesterday) fell through... Planing to go out today and see how it handles. Playing around with it - empty - just racking it, not bad. Would be better if I had bigger hands LOL. But I like it... Will report back when I actually take it for a trial run.
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Post by GLS_1956 » 10 Jul 2016, 1:22 am

Stock up on ammo. You are going to need it. And those rubber ball targets, them and swingers are some of the most fun you can have with your clothes on.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 10 Jul 2016, 7:51 pm

Yep, ok, confirmed, lever action is a blast. Short lever throw is excellent, hand doesn't leave the stock. Me likey! A little limited with what I could shoot at Springvale range, but will be heading out somewhere soon enough. Also timed the trip, Springvale range - 17 minutes, open till 9pm week days. Fun times ahead.

Supaduke, yeah, I see the benefits of a speed loader. Going to try to DIY first.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 16 Jul 2016, 12:52 am

So I didn't realise how cheap .22 are! Grabbed 1000 rounds for $130, could have been even cheaper, but I wanted those, because why not. Wish centrefire were that cheap. :)
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by bladeracer » 16 Jul 2016, 1:40 am

juststarting wrote:So I didn't realise how cheap .22 are! Grabbed 1000 rounds for $130, could have been even cheaper, but I wanted those, because why not. Wish centrefire were that cheap. :)



For bulk fun I just run the really cheap Highland stuff, shoots about 1.5" at 50 yards in my Ruger, about the same as very expensive match ammos. The worst ammo I've tried so far is Winchester Z subsonics, they shoot a shotgun pattern. CCI Quiet's and Minimags hang around the 2MoA at 50 yards. Stingers go subsonic around the 70m mark and accuracy falls apart but out to there they're pretty good.

When I bought the rifle I went around all the local shops and bought every kind of Long Rifle and Shorts I could find. Then spent several days in the paddock shooting them all to see what my Ruger American likes. 90% of the stuff I've tried in the Ruger so far hangs around 1.5" at 50 yards (the Ruger magazine runs Longs okay but won't run shorts). A few will fairly consistently hold 1". One of the match ammo's would consistently go under 1" (beautiful grouping) but is expensive and hard to find so I haven't used it much. I don't buy bricks until I've tried a box or two to ensure they shoot well.

For hunting I prefer to load a centrefire down to the velocities I want, using bulk bullets keeps the cost low as well (ZMax in .204 and .224 are only around 20c each for example - less than half the cost of some match .22LR ammo).

Casting your own lead bullets for centrefire brings the cost down _enormously_.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Gwion » 16 Jul 2016, 9:35 am

I don't mean to say I told you so but why didn't you listen before! :lol:
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Oldbloke » 16 Jul 2016, 10:49 am

Yep, buy a box of about 6 dif brands of ammo. Or just get a few from a mate if he has a brand you dont have. On a nice day test them all for accuracy. Then just buy a brick or 2
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Heckler303 » 16 Jul 2016, 11:30 am

bladeracer wrote:The worst ammo I've tried so far is Winchester Z subsonics, they shoot a shotgun pattern.



That's something I can relate to. :problem:

They're ok for plinking but no way would I ever consider using them for anything else. They wouldn't even group with my Puma.

Get a pack of CCI quiets instead. Much more reliable. And slightly cheaper at my LGS.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Walt68 » 18 Jul 2016, 10:36 am

if you want to be "Australian", buy any brand of firearm, take it to a back yard BBQ, pour XXXX or VB on the barrel, spill some tomato sauce from a sausage "Sanga" on it and you are covered. (you are permitted to clean the beer and sauce off the firearm afterwards)
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 18 Jul 2016, 10:38 am

I try to stay out of yob territory, walzza
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Oldbloke » 18 Jul 2016, 11:33 am

Walt68 wrote:if you want to be "Australian", buy any brand of firearm, take it to a back yard BBQ, pour XXXX or VB on the barrel, spill some tomato sauce from a sausage "Sanga" on it and you are covered. (you are permitted to clean the beer and sauce off the firearm afterwards)


Sheesh, unbelievable :wtf:
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by GLS_1956 » 18 Jul 2016, 6:55 pm

juststarting wrote:So I didn't realise how cheap .22 are! Grabbed 1000 rounds for $130, could have been even cheaper, but I wanted those, because why not. Wish centrefire were that cheap. :)


I know that there is difference in the exchange rate between the US Dollar and the Aus Dollar but that seems pretty pricey to me. I paid around $70US for a 1700 round "Bucket of Bullets". And the cost of 22s has really gotten higher here over the past few years as well as harder to find.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 18 Jul 2016, 8:38 pm

Ye, it's a bit more expensive here. Bucket-o-bullets is around AUD125, just did a random search... taking currency conversion rate into account, that's still AUD30 more, though factoring in shipping fees (unless it's made locally, I don't know) it ain't too bad. Re: finding .22 rounds - very common here.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Baronvonrort » 20 Jul 2016, 10:02 pm

juststarting wrote:So I didn't realise how cheap .22 are! Grabbed 1000 rounds for $130, could have been even cheaper, but I wanted those, because why not. Wish centrefire were that cheap. :)


It's one reason why I think .22lr is the best rimfire round, might be worth a mention in your blog.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 20 Jul 2016, 10:55 pm

Ha! Good idea. I think I might.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Gwion » 21 Jul 2016, 2:06 pm

juststarting wrote:Ha! Good idea. I think I might.


You'll have to delete all the 'who needs a 22/rim fire isn't for me' comments, though! :lol:
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 21 Jul 2016, 2:15 pm

bentaz wrote:
juststarting wrote:I try to stay out of yob territory, walzza

what exept when you come out here? :lol:


Yes. Also when I walk down pretty much anywhere other than office in my ughies or... Look, shut up!
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by juststarting » 21 Jul 2016, 2:18 pm

Gwion wrote:
juststarting wrote:Ha! Good idea. I think I might.


You'll have to delete all the 'who needs a 22/rim fire isn't for me' comments, though! :lol:


Hey, happy to admit I was wrong. I still would rather have other calibers over .22, but since I have all I want, for now, .22 was a good purchase.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Gwion » 21 Jul 2016, 2:20 pm

Just ribbon' ya, mate.
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Re: Buying a .22

Post by Angel » 21 Jul 2016, 8:54 pm

Im a pump action man. I own a 1906 winchester and a 1920's rossi. I looked at the Remington 572. Nice little cat killer that one. Check it out.
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