big brother is watching...

[bigrich]

i've heard about this during the last few weeks . our society is starting to get real Orwellian , it's all in the name of public safety wonder how long before we have a "good citizen" social credit system like china ? i find it more than coincidental that this is being rolled out in WA , probably the most hard core labour state in the federation . and we are a federation of states , i reckon QLD should succeed from it

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... ocialshare

[Wapiti]

She'll be right mate, don't worry. It's all for your own good. Really it is.
Actually, you need to start looking the other way along with the rest of the Lemmings. Then everything will be OK.
"There's a real bad car crash out there on the street" "No there isn't, your eyes have failed you. Look this way instead and it'll go away"
Then the plebs won't have to face whether they have the gonads to be forced to do something about it.

[mchughcb]

Lemmings in reality aren't that stupid was based on a flawed wildlife documentary.

[fussy]

i've heard about this during the last few weeks . our society is starting to get real Orwellian , it's all in the name of public safety wonder how long before we have a "good citizen" social credit system like china ? i find it more than coincidental that this is being rolled out in WA , probably the most hard core labour state in the federation . and we are a federation of states , i reckon QLD should succeed from it

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australi ... ocialshare

Then make sure any local dobbers are dobbed in for everything.
Choke the system with its own greed.

[alexjones]

You know my most hated saying of all time is when limp wrists say “if you have nothing to hide then don't worry”.

[alexjones]

One does not need to have anything to hide to enjoy personal freedom and not have to be harassed.

[alexjones]

The police in QLD can search you randomly in some areas without warrant or reasonable cause for knifes or other contraband. All because some kid got stabbed to death.

The father of that kid was saying his son would be proud to be protecting other kids. But all I heard was my son is a dirty commie that supports commie thugs searching people without cause.


Sure its sad that he died. But why should people lose their freedoms over it?

[bigrich]

The police in QLD can search you randomly in some areas without warrant or reasonable cause for knifes or other contraband. All because some kid got stabbed to death.

The father of that kid was saying his son would be proud to be protecting other kids. But all I heard was my son is a dirty commie that supports commie thugs searching people without cause.


Sure its sad that he died. But why should people lose their freedoms over it?

valid point .but knife crime amongst the youth elements in our society is up . why do people have to carry knives in inner city pub/nightclub areas ? i'm pretty sure the random searches are within certain inner city zones, brisbane/gold coast being two i know off. i think the legality of these searches has already been raised by civil rights groups . it's not just that one kid that died mate . there's been a few people who've died . minding their own business and had some @rseh#le stand over them and intimidate them with a knife . very un-australian . out in the bush a folding knife on your belt is a given . in the city , why ?

[deye243]

There is only one way to combat knife and gun crime it's simple whatever the crims are carrying and using you give the people the same right in other words they carry knives people carry knives they carry guns or machetes or whatever that gives the people the legal right to do the same to defend themselves and just Let The Bodies pile up simple mathematics there's more of us than there is of them

[Wm.Traynor]

There is only one way to combat knife and gun crime it's simple whatever the crims are carrying and using you give the people the same right in other words they carry knives people carry knives they carry guns or machetes or whatever that gives the people the legal right to do the same to defend themselves and just Let The Bodies pile up simple mathematics there's more of us than there is of them

AGREE

[Wapiti]

The police in QLD can search you randomly in some areas without warrant or reasonable cause for knifes or other contraband. All because some kid got stabbed to death.

The father of that kid was saying his son would be proud to be protecting other kids. But all I heard was my son is a dirty commie that supports commie thugs searching people without cause.


Sure its sad that he died. But why should people lose their freedoms over it?

valid point .but knife crime amongst the youth elements in our society is up . why do people have to carry knives in inner city pub/nightclub areas ? i'm pretty sure the random searches are within certain inner city zones, brisbane/gold coast being two i know off. i think the legality of these searches has already been raised by civil rights groups . it's not just that one kid that died mate . there's been a few people who've died . minding their own business and had some @rseh#le stand over them and intimidate them with a knife . very un-australian . out in the bush a folding knife on your belt is a given . in the city , why ?

There is no reason to carry offensive knives in the city Rich. I completely agree with you.
This is not the same discussion as individual rights.

[bigrich]

i understand the views of some fellas in letting all the ratbags take each other out , but i would like , on occasion , to be able to go into brissy and see a live band , or have a meal. without the need to carry a 12" bowie knife and learn hand to hand combat training . that's not what australia is to me, that's not what i want it to turn into . good on the government for introducing harsh penalties for carrying knives in the city , same as most on this forum would advocate for harsh penalties for gun related crime . the random searches without a warrant IS a fine line with regards to civil liberties . but i can't imagine them wasting their time with searches, unless the people they're thinking of searching are "likely looking lads ". the facial recognition cameras however could be easily used by authorities in a very undemocratic manner, gathering information on citizens like the chinese do . instead of these cameras , maybe they should put on more cops to go and arrest these "known" criminals with warrants ect . which is the reason for the cameras they say

[Wapiti]

It's not just that, it's the grubs that want to walk around with knives all day under the pitiful excuse of "individual societal rights" or some other BS religeous excuse, and when spotting a home that they think they can invade, do so with the knives. Then when being the scared sh*tless gutless life-forms that they are, kill a mother, a father, a family.
Anyone from an ape upwards can get a knife from the kitchen, a box-cutter, a camping hatchet and use it to prove they are slightly above human coma status.
This is not the same argument as for example, the suggestion by some here that if you have a firearms licence (obviously then no criminal history or mental health issues of a type that precludes one) then you should be able to carry a shorty, hidden, for self defence as the designated person in the family that self-tasks with the responsibility to keep the family safe.
Or, if other adult family members pass training, they can also arm. That's what I believe anyway.
IF the people tasked with actually, properly applying the laws we have already (which they don't - and should be criminally negligent because of what's happened already), then the right people will be armed and able to do what they need to do when the cops are an hour away in a speed camera.

[bigrich]

It's not just that, it's the grubs that want to walk around with knives all day under the pitiful excuse of "individual societal rights" or some other BS religeous excuse, and when spotting a home that they think they can invade, do so with the knives. Then when being the scared sh*tless gutless life-forms that they are, kill a mother, a father, a family.
Anyone from an ape upwards can get a knife from the kitchen, a box-cutter, a camping hatchet and use it to prove they are slightly above human coma status.
This is not the same argument as for example, the suggestion by some here that if you have a firearms licence (obviously then no criminal history or mental health issues of a type that precludes one) then you should be able to carry a shorty, hidden, for self defence as the designated person in the family that self-tasks with the responsibility to keep the family safe.
Or, if other adult family members pass training, they can also arm. That's what I believe anyway.
IF the people tasked with actually, properly applying the laws we have already (which they don't - and should be criminally negligent because of what's happened already), then the right people will be armed and able to do what they need to do when the cops are an hour away in a speed camera.

absolutely agree . a group of teenagers walking around with knives is probably up to no good by the very fact they're carrying a deadly weapon . to put into context teenagers walking around at night carrying screw drivers/small pry bars and plastic bags in their pockets are very likely going to do a break and enter . in the bush having a knife is a valid , useful tool . or for work , storeman, delivery guys find belt knives/box cutters useful . carrying in the city it's intent to cause harm in my opinion . how's about that sikh fella in england recently ? henry nowak case .

i got nothing against sikh folks , but carrying knives for religious ceremonial beliefs in western society is not valid . by that reasoning , i'm a fifth generation australian redneck settler , and i should be able to carry a 12ga side by side shotty in public as it's valid to my cultural belief's, maaate!

[Wapiti]

Now, we could target the decline in society that's causing all this and try and reverse it,
what with the forgiveness and control of the parasitical judicial system,
the woke politicians that allow this behaviour by ignoring it but pretending they care for anything but feathering their nests,
the welfare system that allows the bludgers to thrive and gives them unlimited time to get bored,
the schools and universities that promote these views including the mental illness of the trans fascination and the beliefs that you shouldn't need to contribute,
the hatred for the white entrepreneurs that have invented, made and a society where those that don't want to support tear it down instead...
Whilst tap tap tapping mindlessly on the tech that these gifted people they hate so much developed while they did nothing except have their hands out, judging everyone else...
NAH
It cannot possibly be anything other than the plan.

[bigrich]

Now, we could target the decline in society that's causing all this and try and reverse it,
what with the forgiveness and control of the parasitical judicial system,
the woke politicians that allow this behaviour by ignoring it but pretending they care for anything but feathering their nests,
the welfare system that allows the bludgers to thrive and gives them unlimited time to get bored,
the schools and universities that promote these views including the mental illness of the trans fascination and the beliefs that you shouldn't need to contribute,
the hatred for the white entrepreneurs that have invented, made and a society where those that don't want to support tear it down instead...
Whilst tap tap tapping mindlessly on the tech that these gifted people they hate so much developed while they did nothing except have their hands out, judging everyone else...
NAH
It cannot possibly be anything other than the plan.

one way or the other, if there's the type of plan your referring too, it will fail . the west has gotten lazy and woke . big similarity to the fall of rome . rising empires with the "hunger" and the will , will take over if the current situation doesn't change . can't find any young fellas that have the grit and work ethic to be sheet metal workers these days . country kids and kiwis are the only ones i've come across in recent years that will give it a go . most soft suburban kids want a high paying job that doesn't involve nation building hard work . some i've talked to recently want to be professional "gamers" or barista's in a coffee shop .
FFS

[Wapiti]

Imagine if there was a war, and Aus had to fight to save it's arse.
We'd be white anted from the inside by the Allan's Snackbar crowd, and the men of age would either be standing in puddles of smelly brown liquid headed downwards, or putting on dresses and lipstick. Those real men that are left would be hunting the current politicians that put us in this mess.

[bigrich]

Imagine if there was a war, and Aus had to fight to save it's arse.
We'd be white anted from the inside by the Allan's Snackbar crowd, and the men of age would either be standing in puddles of smelly brown liquid headed downwards, or putting on dresses and lipstick. Those real men that are left would be hunting the current politicians that put us in this mess.

i agree with your opinions mate , but considering the topic, the last line in your post might get some unwanted attention considering the abilities of AI computers , and their increasing power and use , it's plausible every hypothetical , or joking comment gets assessed for threat level by human monitors or AI.

am i being over cautious or a little paranoid ? maybe , maybe not

[straightshooter]

I have been reading the Wiki article on the Fall of Rome and this bit of he text struck a nerve.

At one point Rechiar even allied with Bagaudae. These were Romans not under imperial control; some of their reasons for rebellion may be indicated by the remarks of a Roman captive under Attila who was happy in his lot, giving a lively account of "the vices of a declining empire, of which he had so long been the victim; the cruel absurdity of the Roman princes, unable to protect their subjects against the public enemy, unwilling to trust them with arms for their own defence; the intolerable weight of taxes, rendered still more oppressive by the intricate or arbitrary modes of collection; the obscurity of numerous and contradictory laws; the tedious and expensive forms of judicial proceedings; the partial administration of justice; and the universal corruption, which increased the influence of the rich, and aggravated the misfortunes of the poor."

Does not history rhyme?

[Wapiti]

Well, I really does, because lately I've been studying the fall of successive "empires" throughout recorded history and what you have posted is what has inevitably happened every time.
In fact, many political historians are saying thatb we are way overdue at this point in history, and without naming anyone, directly blaming a suite of monsters that are holding their regimes together and it's only still teetering because of the deceptive use of the internet and mass media corruption to keep the lies past the people's tolerance levels.
Past corrupt and self-serving empires did not have the benefit of this mass manipulation, and the inevitable dumbing down of the human species.
And so it continues way past the use-by date.

i agree with your opinions mate , but considering the topic, the last line in your post might get some unwanted attention considering the abilities of AI computers , and their increasing power and use , it's plausible every hypothetical , or joking comment gets assessed for threat level by human monitors or AI.
am i being over cautious or a little paranoid ? maybe , maybe not

Hey mate, nowhere did I say that I would ever consider this, in fact, I have no desire to do anything but look after myself after the plebs have allowed this to happen. In no way will I be a martyr for people who don't have the sight past the tip of their nose, or sit back and let others fall for them.
My comment comes from listening to my Mum and Dad, who said that after the Yanks minced the Nazis in their town at the end of the war, the towns-men that had been secretly resisting the Germans, went after the locals who sided with, informed on, and sucked up to the Germans at their expense. For their own benefit. Although the streets were littered with piled up small arms of all kinds, mobs finished off the corrupt politicians who sided with the Germans with garden implements.
I would have no doubt that the decent people, having been restrained and used by the system's laws and what are the "brownshirts" nowadays (things never change for weak human bullies), would seek retribution. It's in all righteous people. History shows this over and over.

[Wapiti]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJNN8BfCsgA

[bigrich]

Well, I really does, because lately I've been studying the fall of successive "empires" throughout recorded history and what you have posted is what has inevitably happened every time.
In fact, many political historians are saying thatb we are way overdue at this point in history, and without naming anyone, directly blaming a suite of monsters that are holding their regimes together and it's only still teetering because of the deceptive use of the internet and mass media corruption to keep the lies past the people's tolerance levels.
Past corrupt and self-serving empires did not have the benefit of this mass manipulation, and the inevitable dumbing down of the human species.
And so it continues way past the use-by date.

i agree with your opinions mate , but considering the topic, the last line in your post might get some unwanted attention considering the abilities of AI computers , and their increasing power and use , it's plausible every hypothetical , or joking comment gets assessed for threat level by human monitors or AI.
am i being over cautious or a little paranoid ? maybe , maybe not

Hey mate, nowhere did I say that I would ever consider this, in fact, I have no desire to do anything but look after myself after the plebs have allowed this to happen. In no way will I be a martyr for people who don't have the sight past the tip of their nose, or sit back and let others fall for them.
My comment comes from listening to my Mum and Dad, who said that after the Yanks minced the Nazis in their town at the end of the war, the towns-men that had been secretly resisting the Germans, went after the locals who sided with, informed on, and sucked up to the Germans at their expense. For their own benefit. Although the streets were littered with piled up small arms of all kinds, mobs finished off the corrupt politicians who sided with the Germans with garden implements.
I would have no doubt that the decent people, having been restrained and used by the system's laws and what are the "brownshirts" nowadays (things never change for weak human bullies), would seek retribution. It's in all righteous people. History shows this over and over.

the state can, and will take things out of context to subjugate dissent . remember pauline locked up on trumped up charges cause she challenged the staus qou . no not the band ....

maybe i've seen too many movies on "1984" type topics . i do try to moderate what i post online ,try to be cautious , but sometimes i can't help myself

[Damo300]

I read this year's ago and have been in standby ever since.

The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.

[bigrich]

I read this year's ago and have been in standby ever since.

The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.

where did you find this mate ? who wrote it ? cheers

[straightshooter]

With apologies to Damo300 to whom the question was directed.
The author of that quote was Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
If you have been around for a fairly long while, like me, the name will be immediately familiar.
He became a darling of the (so called) capitalist west chattering class but once he became a bit too particular and vociferous about those he thought were truly behind all the issues he described he rapidly fell from favour.

[Wapiti]

I read this year's ago and have been in standby ever since.

The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.

That's all well and good, and certainly can inspire a bit of chest swelling and pride.
Maybe even a bit of Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi come and get it, "Lefty scum", but muttered when nobody is around...

Someone here brought up my use of "sit down to p*ss" as a bit harsh when describing those that complain but won't ever actually act and stand up, but you watch that happen. Exactly what will happen.
Someone strong backed into a corner, one at a time maybe, but the wave of government "righteousness" will squash them. The rest looking on will duck for cover.

[Damo300]

I read this year's ago and have been in standby ever since.

The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.

That's all well and good, and certainly can inspire a bit of chest swelling and pride.
Maybe even a bit of Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi come and get it, "Lefty scum", but muttered when nobody is around...

Someone here brought up my use of "sit down to p*ss" as a bit harsh when describing those that complain but won't ever actually act and stand up, but you watch that happen. Exactly what will happen.
Someone strong backed into a corner, one at a time maybe, but the wave of government "righteousness" will squash them. The rest looking on will duck for cover.

I guess it refers to when you've lost it all, and have nothing left, it will not matter who stands behind you or backs you up. You're already past that point of looking for support, or caring. That'll be when all these common men just unite. They won't look for each other. They won't have too.

[Damo300]

I read this year's ago and have been in standby ever since.

The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.

where did you find this mate ? who wrote it ? cheers

G'day bigrich.
I wasn't sure. I'd just read it years ago and kept a copy. Back when things were printed in A4 and handed around...


Thanks straightshooter. Seems you're all over it. It rings true for a lot of people.

[Wapiti]

I read this year's ago and have been in standby ever since.

The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.

That's all well and good, and certainly can inspire a bit of chest swelling and pride.
Maybe even a bit of Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi come and get it, "Lefty scum", but muttered when nobody is around...

Someone here brought up my use of "sit down to p*ss" as a bit harsh when describing those that complain but won't ever actually act and stand up, but you watch that happen. Exactly what will happen.
Someone strong backed into a corner, one at a time maybe, but the wave of government "righteousness" will squash them. The rest looking on will duck for cover.

I guess it refers to when you've lost it all, and have nothing left, it will not matter who stands behind you or backs you up. You're already past that point of looking for support, or caring. That'll be when all these common men just unite. They won't look for each other. They won't have too.

Yep, I agree with that completely mate.
If it built up to that and the opportunity allowed it, I would make it as expensive as possible, guaranteed.

[tuknal]

I read this year's ago and have been in standby ever since.

The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.

That's all well and good, and certainly can inspire a bit of chest swelling and pride.
Maybe even a bit of Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi come and get it, "Lefty scum", but muttered when nobody is around...

Someone here brought up my use of "sit down to p*ss" as a bit harsh when describing those that complain but won't ever actually act and stand up, but you watch that happen. Exactly what will happen.
Someone strong backed into a corner, one at a time maybe, but the wave of government "righteousness" will squash them. The rest looking on will duck for cover.

not having a dig at you wapiti
but ive never got this bulls**t chant ,(yes i get what its supposed to mean ,im as patriotic as the next decent aussie ,but f*** i hate that chant)
didnt think our aussie pride came from an old English skinhead chant ,Oi Oi Oi back in the 80s