Any stackers here?

[Sergeant Hartman]

But then i think the time in already here. I was reading today the aus government uber the biosecurity (and terrorism) acts can detain any person it doesn't like or decides could pose a risk. And guess what no one actually raised an eyebrow

[StraightWhiteMale]

But then i think the time in already here. I was reading today the aus government uber the biosecurity (and terrorism) acts can detain any person it doesn't like or decides could pose a risk. And guess what no one actually raised an eyebrow

I love Queensland but we literally have zero rights. We are not citizens we are subjects. People forget we are a federation of states whom are self governing. The fed has gotten to powerful and needs to get back in its box. Local and state government is important and Canberras only role is border secruity, communication between the states and representing Australias interests overseas. People in inner city Melbourne and Sydney should not dictate how I in Queensland live my life, nor I theirs. What happens inside an Australian state is not the feds business.

[straightshooter]

StraightWhiteMale
If the Queensland constitution is similar to the NSW constitution then you have NO rights.
Once again for emphasis NO RIGHTS.
This will be expressed in fairly plain english within the constitution but somewhat concealed so the dull witted will not grasp it's meaning or potential consequences.
We only have privileges granted (or for that matter withdrawn if you were exercising a liberty not yet proscribed) by parliament and thus by whomever controls parliament.
I am totally mystified why the chattering classes, who constantly bleat about rights, studiously ignore this state of affairs.
I have posted on this subject a number of times in the past on this forum.
The only recourse for us is at a subsequent election.
Now, fortunately, we live in a fairly genteel political environment where the political class prefer to rule with the apparent consent of the majority.
Which gives some credibility to the Mark Twain quote “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.”
But the iron fist will discard it's velvet glove if and when circumstances so necessitate.

[TassieTiger]

The senate has approved- or about to - jail or heavy fines for cash payments exceeding $10k...
I’m also amazed that this step has not raised more red flags...
This here;
https://www.google.com.au/amp/amp.abc.n ... e/12011488

I know some ppl will say - well it won’t affect me, I don’t do $10k cash - but, what’s to stop I going to $5k, then $1 - hell, “cash? That’s illegal mate - we can’t track cash...”

[Southpaw]

For long term metal investing you can’t beat lead and brass...

[StraightWhiteMale]

The senate has approved- or about to - jail or heavy fines for cash payments exceeding $10k...
I’m also amazed that this step has not raised more red flags...
This here;
https://www.google.com.au/amp/amp.abc.n ... e/12011488

I know some ppl will say - well it won’t affect me, I don’t do $10k cash - but, what’s to stop I going to $5k, then $1 - hell, “cash? That’s illegal mate - we can’t track cash...”

Mate has hell frozen over? I can't believe I am siding with the GREENS on this.

[StraightWhiteMale]

StraightWhiteMale
If the Queensland constitution is similar to the NSW constitution then you have NO rights.
Once again for emphasis NO RIGHTS.
This will be expressed in fairly plain english within the constitution but somewhat concealed so the dull witted will not grasp it's meaning or potential consequences.
We only have privileges granted (or for that matter withdrawn if you were exercising a liberty not yet proscribed) by parliament and thus by whomever controls parliament.
I am totally mystified why the chattering classes, who constantly bleat about rights, studiously ignore this state of affairs.
I have posted on this subject a number of times in the past on this forum.
The only recourse for us is at a subsequent election.
Now, fortunately, we live in a fairly genteel political environment where the political class prefer to rule with the apparent consent of the majority.
Which gives some credibility to the Mark Twain quote “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.”
But the iron fist will discard it's velvet glove if and when circumstances so necessitate.

Australians are some of the most submissive people on the planet. Whatever the government tells them they mumble under their breath, grit their teeth and just bend over. Everyone of us in this country is responsible for how things are today by our inaction. Even the French who can't win a war on their own since the Napoleon days love a good riot to show their government they are fed up.


Have you been following what has been going on in Virginia? The democrats were trying to restrict firearm ownership and tens of thousands of patriots from all over the USA went to Virginia to demonstrate and tell the government your not banning anything and the government backed off because the people made a stand. And the Bundy standoff were the people stood up to the government and the government backed off. The government works for the tax we don't work for them. People tend to forget that.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Until the balaclava clad special operations group surround your place, cut your electricity, water and gas. Tell the media to bugger off or you are a suspected terrorist that is getting ready to blow up school kids.

And finally declare that your family is part of the conspiracy and thus unsaveable....aka drop the mofo bomb on the house

what you say that's not possible, look into the isis brides, sure some went there when they were older and want to stay there but most went when they were 16/20 and now have 3-5 year old kids) hoodwinked by their husbands or BF given fairyland stories, husbands who are now dead. If you ask most Australians who call themselves moderate, they are against bringing these women and kids back, because they are scared by the media and the government.

So what do you think will happen if the government really wanted to take your liberty, by the mate fact you have a firearm they are very easy to convince the people that you were a terrorist.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Auntie Pauline or mad Katter will not come to your rescue.

[StraightWhiteMale]

Until the balaclava clad special operations group surround your place, cut your electricity, water and gas. Tell the media to bugger off or you are a suspected terrorist that is getting ready to blow up school kids.

And finally declare that your family is part of the conspiracy and thus unsaveable....aka drop the mofo bomb on the house

what you say that's not possible, look into the isis brides, sure some went there when they were older and want to stay there but most went when they were 16/20 and now have 3-5 year old kids) hoodwinked by their husbands or BF given fairyland stories, husbands who are now dead. If you ask most Australians who call themselves moderate, they are against bringing these women and kids back, because they are scared by the media and the government.

So what do you think will happen if the government really wanted to take your liberty, by the mate fact you have a firearm they are very easy to convince the people that you were a terrorist.

Thats why the FBI burnt down the Waco compound to hide the evidence that the ATF fired first because under American law the government can't just break into a personal property and start shooting and the Branch Dividians were within their rights to shoot at the ATF agents to defend themselves. Which led to the Oklahoma City bombing to destroy all government evodence from Waco and Ruby Ridge.

The media sets the narrative and most people just take what they see at face value with out researching for themselves.

[TassieTiger]

The older I get, the more I realise that democracy (at least in AU) is an illusion...the abc office raids, draconian laws, censorship, ATO/Csa/health/super/govt interfaces that are being forced upon us is the next step towards big brother - 1984. It’s already gone beyond average joes ability to do anything meaningful about it.
That being said - you either put up with it and try and live within the confines or move or whinge about it to no affect lol

[StraightWhiteMale]

The older I get, the more I realise that democracy (at least in AU) is an illusion...the abc office raids, draconian laws, censorship, ATO/Csa/health/super/govt interfaces that are being forced upon us is the next step towards big brother - 1984. It’s already gone beyond average joes ability to do anything meaningful about it.
That being said - you either put up with it and try and live within the confines or move or whinge about it to no affect lol

Or do you die on your feet instead of surrendering on your knees? Rights are never given out freely they are only ever taken.

[TassieTiger]

So what are you plans SWM? What are you going to do to improve the situation - cause, whining about it on a gun forum does nothing...(he says noting that he is whining on a gun forum).
That’s what I was saying in my last post / We are effectively already on our knees...

[StraightWhiteMale]

So what are you plans SWM? What are you going to do to improve the situation - cause, whining about it on a gun forum does nothing...(he says noting that he is whining on a gun forum).
That’s what I was saying in my last post / We are effectively already on our knees...

You are right mate. Every single one of us are responsible for the current state of affairs. We all lack a spine and the balls to do anything. I really think this country is a lost cause. Dangerous freedom is always better than peaceful slavery. My plan is I am trying to migrate to Texas. This country is gone. The barbarians are inside the gates and Rome is burning.

I already got my hat ready to wear when I get my visa.

[TassieTiger]

Haha, that’s gold!
At least you can acknowledge where we are at - it might not be front and centre but it’s on a slippery slope.
As Z said - make a stand in this country at your peril...either via social condemnation or worse.

[TassieTiger]

We all laugh about comments re investing in guns, reloading materials, etc - I’ve been to three shops today who are out of the most popular powders (2209, 06h), WITH NO ETA for additional stock....

[Sergeant Hartman]

I might not agree with a lot of people.. but i do agree with your comments TT.

Tbh though, from where i sit no country actually gives you freedom...as freedom to do whatever you want usually implies there are people who will do unreasonable things, if you want freedom to do what? Have firearms, due same logic could be used to justify stealing, or child porn anything that is currently defined as illegal.

[TassieTiger]

Z, there’s been plenty of holistic commentary here and elsewhere, pertaining to government regulations and ppl being told what they can and cannot do - reality is they are making nothing but noise - and can do, will do nothing, but continue to make noise...just as they did when a lone gunmen changed our laws forever...

On a more upbeat note - banks have passed on the full interest rate cut thank goodness, but it’s had a scare across the ASX.

Glad I bought into silver last week - it’s tanked since I bought, I’ve done a couple hundred on paper lol. I have faith.

[StraightWhiteMale]

Z, there’s been plenty of holistic commentary here and elsewhere, pertaining to government regulations and ppl being told what they can and cannot do - reality is they are making nothing but noise - and can do, will do nothing, but continue to make noise...just as they did when a lone gunmen changed our laws forever...

On a more upbeat note - banks have passed on the full interest rate cut thank goodness, but it’s had a scare across the ASX.

Glad I bought into silver last week - it’s tanked since I bought, I’ve done a couple hundred on paper lol. I have faith.

A lone gunman who had no gun licence and no car licence.

Murder was a crime, possessing firearms with out a licence was a crime, driving a car without a licence was a crime, arson was a crime, kidnaping was a crime and stealing was a crime. He did all of this things even though they were illegal.

All the laws ever needed were already in place yet as always criminals don't follow the laws.


Keep buying more silver mate. It is going to the moon in a few years.

[Stoney]

Z, there’s been plenty of holistic commentary here and elsewhere, pertaining to government regulations and ppl being told what they can and cannot do - reality is they are making nothing but noise - and can do, will do nothing, but continue to make noise...just as they did when a lone gunmen changed our laws forever...

On a more upbeat note - banks have passed on the full interest rate cut thank goodness, but it’s had a scare across the ASX.

Glad I bought into silver last week - it’s tanked since I bought, I’ve done a couple hundred on paper lol. I have faith.

What do you mean by tanked TT? What price did you buy it at? And how has it tanked?

[TassieTiger]

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A lone gunman who had no gun licence and no car licence.

Murder was a crime, possessing firearms with out a licence was a crime, driving a car without a licence was a crime, arson was a crime, kidnaping was a crime and stealing was a crime. He did all of this things even though they were illegal.

All the laws ever needed were already in place yet as always criminals don't follow the laws.


Keep buying more silver mate. It is going to the moon in a few years.[/quote]

Matters not the legality - how did that argument fair in stopping these insane gun laws we now have...?
Point I’m trying to make is same as you previously eluded - the govt make a decision and we don’t have a comeback or the avenues to stop their actions/decisions - another line = ABC journalism Raids - how the f*** were Australians not up in arms about that? And then ABC back down ?? Geezus and then there is this 10k cash limit? It should be ringing loud bloody bells - but nothing...so, we will all be good little citizens and we will say what ever but ultimately do nothing...

[TassieTiger]

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What do you mean by tanked TT? What price did you buy it at? And how has it tanked?[/quote]

My buy price was $980 a kg (which had obvious profit built in) - I saw asx price was down a little over a hundred per kg.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Mate i told you... after you bought, its volatile. But atleast you have a nice shiny bar to look at. We were in Perth a month or two ago, went to Perth mint tour. Couldn't believe how dense Gold is and how heavy the bar is.

Plus they even recover gold from the dust from the room.

The ABC, i mentioned it here a couple times, but most people here thought as ABC are leftard and probably deserved it or had it coming.

I dunno how many people we have actually lost as a percentage of our population in the last 20 years to terrorism, but definitely it has given cover to the politicians to bring in more and more draconian laws... infact the general population wanted them and gets happy when they are given one.

And if you look very closely, a lot of the times the government is doing bad in polls and suddenly the federal police uncovers a new terrorist plot.

Ok that's enough tin foil talk from me, ASIO and signals directorate are probably listening in to me right now

[StraightWhiteMale]

Seeing as the corona thread got shut down did you lads see on the news how old mate got tasered? At tamworth Big W they told him they had no toilet paper left to buy so he grabbed the women by the throat and started wigging out so the jacks had to taser him. Then today a truck with toilet paper onboard got fire bombed in Brisbane and in Hong Kong a warehouse got ramraided to steal toilet paper. Its getting chaotic out there. If 3.5% of the worlds population die as some predict that is a lot of people. Reminds me of that scene from the men in black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPMMNvYTEyI

[Sergeant Hartman]

Yeah saw the truck news. I did read a funny joke. How the insurance co2 la y I'd probably up for 100s of millions of dollars worth of claim for that truck burning up seeing 1 roll is going for thousands on eBay

[StraightWhiteMale]

Today is day 31 since I submitted my licence application. I got a brand new Berika, Remington and Ruger paid for at the shop waiting for me. I wonder if the world will end before I get a chance to sight them in on the farm. The shop owner will be laughing. He keeps the money and the product if it does.

[Sergeant Hartman]

So why getting your license so late?

Alsaccording to you logic...be happy if the works ends he won't get to enjoy your money

[TassieTiger]

I went to my 4th gun shop today who are out of 2209 and 2206 powder...
The way paper is going - screw the silver - I’m investing in bidets lol

[StraightWhiteMale]

So why getting your license so late?

Alsaccording to you logic...be happy if the works ends he won't get to enjoy your money

Why so late? Because not every place in the world needs permission to spend their own money.

He wont get to enjoy it but he will have the fond memory of free money.

[StraightWhiteMale]

I went to my 4th gun shop today who are out of 2209 and 2206 powder...
The way paper is going - screw the silver - I’m investing in bidets lol

Where is that mate? Tasmania? Looks like people are stockpiling.