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Re: Meat prices

Post by Bill » 04 Oct 2021, 10:28 am

Porks been pretty stable, thou we import close to half of it from Canada/USA/EU. Aldi's got some cracking 1 kg cured Pork knuckle at the moment :drinks:
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Oldbloke » 04 Oct 2021, 10:43 am

Bill wrote:Porks been pretty stable, thou we import close to half of it from Canada/USA/EU. Aldi's got some cracking 1 kg cured Pork knuckle at the moment :drinks:


Their roasts are OZ grown.
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Re: Meat prices

Post by ZaineB » 04 Oct 2021, 3:00 pm

Bill wrote:Most of the Roo meat harvested ends up in Pet food, as a buyer Coles and Woolies wouldnt be putting gamey old buck on the shelf, think about it :thumbsup:



no one harvests small ones mate, thats just how it is, all roo on the shelf is sub prime.
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Post by Bugman » 04 Oct 2021, 4:44 pm

I hear hamster tastes a bit like chicken. :)
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Post by bigpete » 04 Oct 2021, 4:45 pm

Bugman wrote:I hear hamster tastes a bit like chicken. :)

Hmmmmm.....hamster.....
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Post by animalpest » 04 Oct 2021, 5:05 pm

So that answered my question - most roo shooters just harvest big roos and there is no selection of young versus old, males versus female that goes for human consumption.

And that is very reason I only eat roos that I have selected and shot
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Post by Bill » 04 Oct 2021, 6:17 pm

Animal pest I have mates in the industry and they shot what is in front of them, the idea that they cherry pick the big one is a fallacy they just want to get the night done as quickly as possible and get back to the bin. Average weight could be 23-25kg in drier times but right now in NSW with 12 months of good feed average weight would be more in the 27kg plus range back at the bin.
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Post by duncan61 » 04 Oct 2021, 7:12 pm

The owner of the box I shot in went to Hay NSW as it is big business there.apparently the company has boxes set up and supplies the rack for your ute.A large tray ute can load 48 animals 8 on the first rack then other bars slot in with space for the next 8 till you are full up and then you go back to the box which is elevated and a crane takes them off 3 at a time.There is an operator who records the weight and sex of the animals.Once you are unloaded there is even a washdown area.Job done for the night.Of course here in the West we build our own chillers and unload everything on our own and sometimes even deliver direct to the factory ourselves.As we are nicer people and have slightly larger private parts here in West Australia its no biggy :D :D :D
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Post by Bill » 04 Oct 2021, 7:29 pm

Mate unloads 1 at a time manually not 3 with a crane LOL, they also need to show up for load out which can be twice every 10 days, 30-40 tonne a month of dead lifting. Roo's too big to go 48 Duncan, max load would be 37-40. Bigger Kahuna's :lol: :drinks:
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Re: Meat prices

Post by animalpest » 04 Oct 2021, 8:28 pm

Yeah I shot 103 roos one night recently and 104 the next night. Hard work
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Post by ZaineB » 04 Oct 2021, 8:29 pm

Bill wrote:Animal pest I have mates in the industry and they shot what is in front of them, the idea that they cherry pick the big one is a fallacy they just want to get the night done as quickly as possible and get back to the bin. Average weight could be 23-25kg in drier times but right now in NSW with 12 months of good feed average weight would be more in the 27kg plus range back at the bin.



I know a good 20 pro roo shooters who do pick, its not a fallacy at all, why would someone voluntarily earn less?
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Post by ZaineB » 04 Oct 2021, 8:32 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
Bill wrote:Porks been pretty stable, thou we import close to half of it from Canada/USA/EU. Aldi's got some cracking 1 kg cured Pork knuckle at the moment :drinks:


Their roasts are OZ grown.



sure are, and better than coles and woolies by a long shot, at least you can cook them without them broiling themselves to a tasteless shrunken mess. pork from some vendors is atrocious, luckily here we have 3 major piggeries within a stones throw, the supermarkets can take a dive.
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Post by Oldbloke » 04 Oct 2021, 9:54 pm

Lately we have had one almost weekly in the Webber. Mmmmm
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Post by Die Judicii » 05 Oct 2021, 11:59 pm

I've been told that most "meat" pies that you can buy, especially supermarket ones contain roo meat as a percentage.
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Die Judicii » 06 Oct 2021, 12:04 am

ZaineB wrote:
Bill wrote:Animal pest I have mates in the industry and they shot what is in front of them, the idea that they cherry pick the big one is a fallacy they just want to get the night done as quickly as possible and get back to the bin. Average weight could be 23-25kg in drier times but right now in NSW with 12 months of good feed average weight would be more in the 27kg plus range back at the bin.



I know a good 20 pro roo shooters who do pick, its not a fallacy at all, why would someone voluntarily earn less?


I have a pro roo shooter that does my place,,,,,,,,,, and he definitely only takes the "cream"
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Re: Meat prices

Post by ZaineB » 06 Oct 2021, 1:33 am

Die Judicii wrote:
ZaineB wrote:
Bill wrote:Animal pest I have mates in the industry and they shot what is in front of them, the idea that they cherry pick the big one is a fallacy they just want to get the night done as quickly as possible and get back to the bin. Average weight could be 23-25kg in drier times but right now in NSW with 12 months of good feed average weight would be more in the 27kg plus range back at the bin.



I know a good 20 pro roo shooters who do pick, its not a fallacy at all, why would someone voluntarily earn less?


I have a pro roo shooter that does my place,,,,,,,,,, and he definitely only takes the "cream"


well it only makes 100% sense, if I was fabricating (in my old job) and my customers came up and told me they were going to pay per kg of the job instead of my time etc, I would simply only do the biggest heaviest jobs...

Ive been out almost every weekend and school holiday night for over 5 years from 6 to 13yo when my uncle was running a roo shooting business/chiller, holding the spotty and making cuppas for him and my old man as they shot roos all night, then as a teenager same deal with a friend of the old mans up north where we relocated to for a while, then in the latter years since returning from contracting all over the state I go out helping a mate,

There are only so many tags that are awarded/gained/bought by each shooter, to think that when theyre paid per KG that they are gonna rinse a whole mob of roos instead of just the bigger ones, is plain nonsense and illogical and fiscally dim witted. No one I have ever encountered has gone to work to make less money than they could.

the habits of a roo shooter (professional) and a hunter getting a meal, is almost polar opposites, When selecting a roo from a mob (as animalpest and duncan have already eluded to/stated) a hunter looks for a smaller, younger specimen that has not matured, these smaller roos are substantially smaller than the adults in weighing half as much or less than half as much. The difference in roo meat between the two is night and day. Hence I can say loudly, confidently, and definitely that roo meat on the shelf is more than more, likely to be crap. The professional shooter is making a living and hence only shoots the most profitable roos, the large ones.
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Post by Bill » 06 Oct 2021, 6:33 am

Die Judicii wrote:
ZaineB wrote:
Bill wrote:Animal pest I have mates in the industry and they shot what is in front of them, the idea that they cherry pick the big one is a fallacy they just want to get the night done as quickly as possible and get back to the bin. Average weight could be 23-25kg in drier times but right now in NSW with 12 months of good feed average weight would be more in the 27kg plus range back at the bin.



I know a good 20 pro roo shooters who do pick, its not a fallacy at all, why would someone voluntarily earn less?


I have a pro roo shooter that does my place,,,,,,,,,, and he definitely only takes the "cream"


So you run a kangaroo farm Die Judicci and someone comes and collects the cream :lol: :lol: who shoots the does ?
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Die Judicii » 06 Oct 2021, 9:18 am

Bill wrote:
I have a pro roo shooter that does my place,,,,,,,,,, and he definitely only takes the "cream"


So you have run a kangaroo farm Die Judicci and someone comes and collects the cream :lol: :lol: who shoots the does ?[/quote]

I really don't know mate,,,,,,, who shoots yours ?
Sounds like there's a few running loose in the top paddock. :lol:
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Re: Meat prices

Post by cleger » 06 Oct 2021, 9:22 am

I'm seing about $4.50/lb (AUD$13/kg) for regular ground beef/mince here in Massachusetts. Way up over last year. Maybe 30% higher?
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Post by Noisydad » 06 Oct 2021, 10:03 am

What’s with the re labeling of meat these days? I’ve chopped and bagged plenty of steers for the freezer in my time and I know what rump steak looks like! If the stuff being sold in the stoopid market as rump rather than the grissly stewing steak that it really is I’ll eat my boot soles…oh wait I already have!
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Re: Meat prices

Post by duncan61 » 06 Oct 2021, 8:09 pm

When spotlighting you always try to get the big ones but I have found if you cull 30 roos in a night 5-7 will be bucks and the rest does.Western greys are a big animal and bucks will weigh in processed 45-65kg and does 25-35kg.Up North if you average over 25kg for your whole load you are doing O.K.It cost the same to pay a slaught to do a small roo as it does to do a larger animal and the larger skins have more value.Just the way it is
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Post by bah! » 07 Oct 2021, 8:26 pm

That is right, once you shoot the bucks out, you may as well shoot the does. Local guy shot 80 last season and of that only a dozen were bucks but he still got paid for the rest.
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Post by ZaineB » 07 Oct 2021, 8:40 pm

bah! wrote:That is right, once you shoot the bucks out, you may as well shoot the does. Local guy shot 80 last season and of that only a dozen were bucks but he still got paid for the rest.


depends on the property and population, and youre not allowed to shoot does with joeys.
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Post by animalpest » 07 Oct 2021, 8:57 pm

So if "your not allowed to shoot does with joeys" then that would severely curtail what time of the year you can shoot.

While kangaroos have a time of the year when they are more likely to breed, it is not guaranteed they won't have a Joey.

Please point me to licence conditions, Code of Practice or law that says this. Just curious about that statement.
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Post by ZaineB » 07 Oct 2021, 9:03 pm

animalpest wrote:So if "your not allowed to shoot does with joeys" then that would severely curtail what time of the year you can shoot.

While kangaroos have a time of the year when they are more likely to breed, it is not guaranteed they won't have a Joey.

Please point me to licence conditions, Code of Practice or law that says this. Just curious about that statement.

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I'll have a look but it is more than outlined, and with good cause. imagine the screeching masses if cute little joeys were getting thumped on the head merely so you can shoot the mother.
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Post by bah! » 07 Oct 2021, 11:30 pm

not exactly a secret
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Post by animalpest » 08 Oct 2021, 10:11 am

Yes, I am very well aware of the kangaroo CoP. But nowhere does it state that females with joeys must not be shot.
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Post by Die Judicii » 08 Oct 2021, 11:40 am

The "law" quite often contradicts itself,,,,,, depending on which government office various regulations come out of.

ie: Motorists are required by law to take joeys (after the mother has been killed by vehicle impact) to an Animal Welfare place to be cared for.

and,

ie: All "Does" must have the pouch checked after being shot (cull permits in Sth Aust) for joeys, and if present they must be destroyed."
(this was clearly stated on all cull permits I had in Sth Aust, and included specified methods of destruction)
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Re: Meat prices

Post by Communism_Is_Cancer » 08 Oct 2021, 11:43 am

The price of cattle is going through the roof and I don't see it dropping anytime soon as inflation soars.
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