WA firearm fire sale

[Wapiti]

What I found personally, is that recreational shooters don't make dents in the feral populations at all.

I know some will say, BS, ferals shot are ferals gone. Yes true. But it's a drop in the bucket.
With my issues, the casual shooters aren't there when you need them, they are 100's of KM away working jobs in cities to pay for their houses, families, food, kids, life. They come out when they feel like it. That's the ones that are behaving themselves.
Then there is the idiot element... to your face they're god's gift to the farmer and when he's not around they are doing all sorts of mischief.

Sure, people can post up info on numbers of animals killed by hunters, and how it contributes. And it does, with the right people.
The wrong people, shooting up campsites and targets, bombing up mobs and letting animals get away just disperse ferals, educate them to the dangers of the farmer who gets around later and would normally have the opportunity to solve the issue because the animals he sees are used to his movements.

If you don't see the benefit of professional feral control, you haven't seen real determined professional control and shouldn't comment.

People posting up videos of themselves in the act of killing animals in a hail of bullets just do not have the IQ to realise what damage they are doing to the people who do not need to fluff their egos and just get out and take animals for resource. Political types are watching, and formulate ways to stop them at the nearest opportunity.

The virtues of hunters, to me is, the healthy lifestyle and getting out in the bush, the benefit of clean healthy meat to take home for your family, and the contribution you bring to the rural communities you should visit who give you the opportunity.

[mchughcb]

The difference is in Victoria there are thousands of licensed hunters who go out ever week religiously to hunt during the season. During rice season thousands of WIT hunters shoot thousands of ducks over the rice.

Qld and NSW long weekend pig bomb ups are not the same.

[Wapiti]

Definitely a much more positive hunting culture there that's for sure. At least that's how it looks from another state.

[jezzab]

Feel a little dirty buying a 6.5 Man Bun (I'm sure two friends will disown me) but the price was insane for a Tikka T3x CTR with MDT ESS chassis, Vortex scope, break, cerakoted, reloading dies and all the fruit. Didn't low ball as it was priced appropriately and he is happy.

Crazy

[animalpest]

What I found personally, is that recreational shooters don't make dents in the feral populations at all.

I know some will say, BS, ferals shot are ferals gone. Yes true. But it's a drop in the bucket.
With my issues, the casual shooters aren't there when you need them, they are 100's of KM away working jobs in cities to pay for their houses, families, food, kids, life. They come out when they feel like it. That's the ones that are behaving themselves.
Then there is the idiot element... to your face they're god's gift to the farmer and when he's not around they are doing all sorts of mischief.

Sure, people can post up info on numbers of animals killed by hunters, and how it contributes. And it does, with the right people.
The wrong people, shooting up campsites and targets, bombing up mobs and letting animals get away just disperse ferals, educate them to the dangers of the farmer who gets around later and would normally have the opportunity to solve the issue because the animals he sees are used to his movements.

If you don't see the benefit of professional feral control, you haven't seen real determined professional control and shouldn't comment.

People posting up videos of themselves in the act of killing animals in a hail of bullets just do not have the IQ to realise what damage they are doing to the people who do not need to fluff their egos and just get out and take animals for resource. Political types are watching, and formulate ways to stop them at the nearest opportunity.

The virtues of hunters, to me is, the healthy lifestyle and getting out in the bush, the benefit of clean healthy meat to take home for your family, and the contribution you bring to the rural communities you should visit who give you the opportunity.

Shooters often talk about shooting for conservation. One large group push it. The problem is that there are no assessments of effectiveness. Numbers shot can mean nothing, it's whether the damage the animal was doing has been mitigated.

Shooting a few foxes maybe results in no benefit... other than shooting a few foxes.

[mchughcb]

What I found personally, is that recreational shooters don't make dents in the feral populations at all.

I know some will say, BS, ferals shot are ferals gone. Yes true. But it's a drop in the bucket.
With my issues, the casual shooters aren't there when you need them, they are 100's of KM away working jobs in cities to pay for their houses, families, food, kids, life. They come out when they feel like it. That's the ones that are behaving themselves.
Then there is the idiot element... to your face they're god's gift to the farmer and when he's not around they are doing all sorts of mischief.

Sure, people can post up info on numbers of animals killed by hunters, and how it contributes. And it does, with the right people.
The wrong people, shooting up campsites and targets, bombing up mobs and letting animals get away just disperse ferals, educate them to the dangers of the farmer who gets around later and would normally have the opportunity to solve the issue because the animals he sees are used to his movements.

If you don't see the benefit of professional feral control, you haven't seen real determined professional control and shouldn't comment.

People posting up videos of themselves in the act of killing animals in a hail of bullets just do not have the IQ to realise what damage they are doing to the people who do not need to fluff their egos and just get out and take animals for resource. Political types are watching, and formulate ways to stop them at the nearest opportunity.

The virtues of hunters, to me is, the healthy lifestyle and getting out in the bush, the benefit of clean healthy meat to take home for your family, and the contribution you bring to the rural communities you should visit who give you the opportunity.

Shooters often talk about shooting for conservation. One large group push it. The problem is that there are no assessments of effectiveness. Numbers shot can mean nothing, it's whether the damage the animal was doing has been mitigated.

Shooting a few foxes maybe results in no benefit... other than shooting a few foxes.

Well keeps you permanently though!

[animalpest]

Don't really do much of that

[jezzab]

Seeing a lot more "includes freight" ads but there are still a lot of dreamers.

No one is going to pay $1100 for a T2000 and then pay $300 freight and transfers when they could buy one new at their LGS. Hell, mine was $1100 new in box.

Wouldn't you wanna get say $500 vs handing it in and it being crushed? Guess it comes down to the time doing the deal vs money for some people.

Curious what happens as we get closer. I've rescued two rifles from there, so I'm out. The freight is killing their sales though

One thing I heard from a dealer was that freight only goes out of WA for firearms on Fridays, seems a bit weird if it's true

[geoff]

You could list it for $300 and maybe sell it by the morning, or put it up for $800..... and have to feed it into a shredder on Monday. Probably at further expense.

Unfortunately at this stage those are the only two options

[mchughcb]

Shredder it is.

[Wapiti]

What I got from Bastion's verbal discussions with the boss at Qld Weapons Licensing is that they are evaluating a response of their own to button/lever release firearms currently sold here. Its on that video I put up on a other thread here.
What's the bet you guys with those better start getting value out of them quick smart and have an alternative in the safe.

[jezzab]

They're buying them back now??

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-01/ ... /105122272

[noneyabussiness]

https://ozgunlobby.com/t/wa-guns-thing- ... ns/4923/16

yeah and ssaa are taking credit .... lol

[Wapiti]

The SSAA is correct at least, of stating the obvious that the roll-out of all this dribbling bulls**t has been "chaotic".

Like I've said earlier, this looks like a complete clusterf*** from the usual political inept oxygen thieves that get elected by the foolish masses.

BUT>>> How is the SSAA claiming credit? Can someone there provide evidence to back up their self-congratulatory claims?
Are they desperate to try and get some credibility after hiding in the dark p*ssing themselves whilst all this was being enacted against their members?

[jezzab]

https://www.ssaa.org.au/?ss_news=win-fo ... n-shooters

[Wapiti]

So, the SSAA "rallied shooters" themselves to stand up and all personally complain to government?

[mchughcb]

Nothing chaotic at all, bend over, hand in the Templeton, get no compensation and vote Labor. Simple.

Get another hobby.

[jezzab]

Get in before its gone....
One of a kind

https://www.allguns.com.au/listings/rifle-44-magnum/

[bladeracer]

Get in before its gone....
One of a kind

https://www.allguns.com.au/listings/rifle-44-magnum/

I love that!

[Wapiti]

Yeah but don't laugh too hard. How popular are folding stocks, magazines that look like they hold 30 rounds pinned to 10, pistol grip stocks on bolt actions, and on even this forum, how many people drop comments on how a lever or button release "looks sh*t" because it doesn't look AR enough.

Local gunshop said the 223 Chimera sells 5 to one, maybe 10 -1, over the synthetic normal shorter shaped stock, even though it has the ergonomics of a shrunken giraffe. The Alcor isn't as popular because they reckon customers say, it hasn't a pistol grip, show me something else.
People can buy whatever they like I reckon, but don't be so surprised then what monstrosities turn up.

[bladeracer]

Yeah but don't laugh too hard. How popular are folding stocks, magazines that look like they hold 30 rounds pinned to 10, pistol grip stocks on bolt actions, and on even this forum, how many people drop comments on how a lever or button release "looks sh*t" because it doesn't look AR enough.

Local gunshop said the 223 Chimera sells 5 to one, maybe 10 -1, over the synthetic normal shorter shaped stock, even though it has the ergonomics of a shrunken giraffe. The Alcor isn't as popular because they reckon customers say, it hasn't a pistol grip, show me something else.
People can buy whatever they like I reckon, but don't be so surprised then what monstrosities turn up.

I think the Chimera is selling because it's a realistic price compared to other options. Whether that reduced price means reduced longevity we'll have to see.

What I love about this guy's .44 Ruger is that he built the chassis himself, as I did for my Ruger Americans.

[Wapiti]

That looks like a a DTA SRS.
I reckon that was the look he was going for.

[bladeracer]

That looks like a a DTA SRS.
I reckon that was the look he was going for.

That is mine, I wasn't going for any look, I just wanted to bullpup the rifles, and I wanted to do it with just hand tools - that's what I ended up with.

[Wapiti]

Well that's the classic bullpup look, one that was perfected by DTA, so great job. Is it practical?
I will admit that the rear-end bolt position is something to get used to, but the compactness is amazing.

[bladeracer]

Well that's the classic bullpup look, one that was perfected by DTA, so great job. Is it practical?
I will admit that the rear-end bolt position is something to get used to, but the compactness is amazing.

Yep, I really like it. It's still about 80mm longer than the 750mm minimum so I could have gone shorter, but the bolt would have to run out through the buttpad so you couldn't cycle it while shouldered. It feels quite like carrying the F88 to me.

[jezzab]

I think the Chimera is selling because it's a realistic price compared to other options. Whether that reduced price means reduced longevity we'll have to see.

What I love about this guy's .44 Ruger is that he built the chassis himself, as I did for my Ruger Americans.

I actually like that (yours), well done. The other one I posted though... doesnt really blow my hair back. Its a bit 'rustic' for me, but each to their own. I mean there is "Tacticool" and there is Bunnings

[bladeracer]

I actually like that (yours), well done. The other one I posted though... doesnt really blow my hair back. Its a bit 'rustic' for me, but each to their own. I mean there is "Tacticool" and there is Bunnings

Mine still has the Bunnings barcode stickers on the various profiles

The .44 lever I'm not sure what his reason was for making the chassis as it doesn't really change much except adding the pistol grip. Those things are pretty compact little rifles anyway. Maybe he broke the stock and couldn't get or didn't want to wait on a replacement so he made his own. Perhaps he just likes dicking around with projects. I just think it's cool that he did it regardless of his reasoning

I wanted to build a bullpup and was originally thinking of one of the milsurps, in particular the M1891/30 Mosin as they are ludicrously long to begin with. You can bullpup one and still be longer than a modern hunting rifle. Once I started measuring and drawing it was clear that the Mosin wasn't going to be a simple job, and other milsurps I have didn't look much simpler. And I wanted to do it with basic hand tools, no milling or lathe work, just a drill, a jigsaw, and files. I was trawling through aluminium profiles and I noticed an odd size of round tube. I already liked that the Ruger American is a basic round tube receiver so, on a hunch I measured the Americans and they happen to have the same size receiver that would slip neatly into the tube, with just a couple thousandths of clearance. So I ordered a length and it snowballed from there

[Wapiti]

Bullpups are a really interesting idea.
I've seen heaps of negative comments about them, but as is the internet frequently, it's opinion rather than experience.
They are a natural evolution of the same old, same old action types and barrels needing to be long for performance, and being too long. The bullpup design fixes it.
I reckon it's great what you did, also because you are having a go and it's come out great.

This is one I dragged out because a few mates are coming down to have a shot, and they've seen this on video games, and because your work has given me some enthusiasm... This has a 22" 308 barrel installed, with the 308 bolt. It also takes 300WM and 338LAP. We'll have some fun with it today with 175gn Matchkings.

Just so this isn't accused of being threadcreep, I'll add, does anyone know whether these were legal under WA's perverted gun laws?

[Wapiti]

Had the weekly Sunday email from The Barn in Oakey, "Second Hand Sunday" and there's these used CZ515's, push button shotguns etc suddenly popping up.
Is it just me wondering how they all suddenly appeared, and hmmmm... where they're from? Co-incidence? Just crap firearms and Qld'ers just dumping them?

[geoff]

I don't really see the mystery

Dealers on both sides of the Nullarbor have been openly talking about trading them in batch lots.

It makes good business sense? They all have to leave WA through a dealer no ifs or buts so.....should those dealers sell them one by one or by the pallet load?