Speculating on new firearms laws

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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by cusco » 16 Dec 2025, 5:06 pm

Hi folks,

Just my thoughts but I reckon the lever release types will go plus limits of some sort.

On a different thought are there any members here who are in unions. I believe in Victoria recently push back from union members and unions helped get the duck and or quail season allowed. Correct me if I am wrong on this. If enough union members and unions themselves give support to their LAFO members this "might" just be enough to not allow Albo to bring in harsh gun laws, but sensible updates to lope holes. The unions are Labour power base so this might affect the decisions.

Also might need to start contacting your local federal/state member to calmly ask for us not to be not thrown under the bus for the actions of crazy people.

Anyway just my 2 cents.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by MG5150 » 16 Dec 2025, 5:06 pm

very disappointed to see that the SSAA, ADA and a few other groups are posting a statement saying they wish to work with the government on firearms changes instead of calling it out as bulls**t and telling them to get to the real issue.



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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by bigrich » 16 Dec 2025, 5:38 pm

No1Mk3 wrote:
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deye243 wrote:Limit of 5 . psychological test every licence renewal that will be extremely problematic because extremely expensive and probably takes 12 months to get to see one of these head Shrinks and probably voluntary monitoring of your social media I don't think these grubs have anything off the table and all the rest of the Retarded stuff from Western Australia like storing bolts separate no folding stocks empty cases classified as loaded ammunition you know all that brain dead moron stuff that doesn't make anybody any safer it's just an excuse to take guns of people


empty cases classed as loaded ammunition ? FFS are they serious ?


It used to be the case in WA but is no longer. Nothing is off the table now, however. Sense has flown out the window and we are about to be reamed, absolutely nothing can or will be done to stop it. I know already my collection is toast unless I emigrate, and they may even prevent that happening throught AG and Defence requirements to take firearms overseas.


things are gunna change for sure, but i'm also seeing pushback from senators, especially up in QLD calling the proposed new laws for what they are . i'm trying to be optimistic , i'm gunna email my local MP who's labor. better to have tried and failed than never tried at all :thumbsup:
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Billo » 16 Dec 2025, 6:17 pm

MG5150 wrote:very disappointed to see that the SSAA, ADA and a few other groups are posting a statement saying they wish to work with the government on firearms changes instead of calling it out as bulls**t and telling them to get to the real issue.



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If your not at the table then you'll have no say
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Cape_Yorkee » 16 Dec 2025, 8:03 pm

MG5150 wrote:very disappointed to see that the SSAA, ADA and a few other groups are posting a statement saying they wish to work with the government on firearms changes instead of calling it out as bulls**t and telling them to get to the real issue.



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I think you'll find SSAA are playing it smart by getting themselves to the table to try and address this rubbish. I'm sure there'll be changes across the board, but trying to work in with state and Feds to limit what changes are in front of us sounds logical to me. Jumping up and down like meat ants and trying to work against the grain won't get anyone far. There's a lot at stake here for all of us.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by bigrich » 16 Dec 2025, 8:41 pm

Cape_Yorkee wrote:
MG5150 wrote:very disappointed to see that the SSAA, ADA and a few other groups are posting a statement saying they wish to work with the government on firearms changes instead of calling it out as bulls**t and telling them to get to the real issue.



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I think you'll find SSAA are playing it smart by getting themselves to the table to try and address this rubbish. I'm sure there'll be changes across the board, but trying to work in with state and Feds to limit what changes are in front of us sounds logical to me. Jumping up and down like meat ants and trying to work against the grain won't get anyone far. There's a lot at stake here for all of us.


that's the strategically smart thing to do , shooters union is taking the same approach from what i can tell . i've seen a uptick in news stories and opinions from some senators shifting focus from gun laws to the failings of police and intelligence services . things are very fluid , but i'm hopeful of a better outcome than i initially thought .
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by ederlezi » 16 Dec 2025, 8:47 pm

Wapiti wrote:And another one for wobble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpDAwqxYDBU


That was actually pretty good!
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Post by ederlezi » 16 Dec 2025, 8:57 pm

bigrich wrote:
Cape_Yorkee wrote:
MG5150 wrote:very disappointed to see that the SSAA, ADA and a few other groups are posting a statement saying they wish to work with the government on firearms changes instead of calling it out as bulls**t and telling them to get to the real issue.



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I think you'll find SSAA are playing it smart by getting themselves to the table to try and address this rubbish. I'm sure there'll be changes across the board, but trying to work in with state and Feds to limit what changes are in front of us sounds logical to me. Jumping up and down like meat ants and trying to work against the grain won't get anyone far. There's a lot at stake here for all of us.


that's the strategically smart thing to do , shooters union is taking the same approach from what i can tell . i've seen a uptick in news stories and opinions from some senators shifting focus from gun laws to the failings of police and intelligence services . things are very fluid , but i'm hopeful of a better outcome than i initially thought .


Agreed, you need to have a sit at the negociation table to have a voice. If you are not invited...this is pointless.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by deye243 » 16 Dec 2025, 10:00 pm

No I'm not exactly up on all this politics thing I can see him forcing it on every Labour state queensland might be a little bit of a problem for him and as much as I dislike unions maybe down here in Victoria they will be our Saving Grace like they were with duck shooting this year and last year
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by bigrich » 17 Dec 2025, 4:11 am

ederlezi wrote:
Wapiti wrote:And another one for wobble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpDAwqxYDBU


That was actually pretty good!


sadly it was also pretty accurate
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Finniss » 17 Dec 2025, 9:38 am

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-17/ ... /101783696

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-25/ ... /105459658

The last 2 incidents used to justify firearms law changes could have been avoided or reduced if police had done a better job. And once again our 'leaders' are deflecting from the root cause and distracting their voters.

NT Police have been implying the NFR could have avoided the Porepunkah police murders....as if the murderer would have registered his home made shotgun...

Would be nice to see a review of the incident and laws that doesn't involve misinformation so there could actually be an improvement in the prevention of these terrible acts of violence. Perhaps even the reviews of fiream laws could involve people who know about firearms and their use in this country because the various police ministers and legislation writers dont seem to have a clue.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Blr243 » 17 Dec 2025, 12:06 pm

My Templeton push button shotgun , my Remington pump rifle , my browning straight pull rifle …. If they are soon to be no longer allowed is a buy back or a take back likely ?
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Blr243 » 17 Dec 2025, 12:07 pm

I just remembered my lever guns
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by deye243 » 17 Dec 2025, 1:07 pm

That moron minns is recalling parliament to bring in the new laws before Christmas for Christ's sake can you imagine what a dog's breakfast they're going to be with blanket bans and no leeway you know early next year you'll have had your guns stolen off you regardless of whether they give you money for them or not it's still theft and then 12 months later you'll be able to have something the same or similar it's happened before
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by MG5150 » 17 Dec 2025, 4:13 pm

Yoda wrote:So I'm thinking were about to see a 10 limit on the number of firearms we can have. These second hand firearms will flood the market causing a crash in rifle prices. This will hurt gun shops selling new rifles. How do you think this will play out?


If they're making a big deal about 6 legally owned firearms then the number is probably going to be 5 like over in WA
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Billo » 17 Dec 2025, 7:24 pm

deye243 wrote:That moron minns is recalling parliament to bring in the new laws before Christmas for Christ's sake can you imagine what a dog's breakfast they're going to be with blanket bans and no leeway you know early next year you'll have had your guns stolen off you regardless of whether they give you money for them or not it's still theft and then 12 months later you'll be able to have something the same or similar it's happened before


He is just trying to present a rushed Bill before Parliament, no new laws will be rushed they will be negotiated and unlikely to appear before feb/march 2026 for a vote
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Terraincognita » 17 Dec 2025, 8:18 pm

Queensland deputy premier says Queensland only signing on for limiting the number of firearms a licensee can own.Didn’t give a number but if this is the only change not a bad result for Queenslanders. But we’ll wait and see.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by bigrich » 17 Dec 2025, 8:28 pm

Terraincognita wrote:Queensland deputy premier says Queensland only signing on for limiting the number of firearms a licensee can own.Didn’t give a number but if this is the only change not a bad result for Queenslanders. But we’ll wait and see.


here's hoping :roll:
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by alexjones » 17 Dec 2025, 9:53 pm

Terraincognita wrote:Queensland deputy premier says Queensland only signing on for limiting the number of firearms a licensee can own.Didn’t give a number but if this is the only change not a bad result for Queenslanders. But we’ll wait and see.



Not a bad result? I own nearly 50 guns. I am going to get raped here!!!

Lets see if I can move them to my collector licence.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by alexjones » 17 Dec 2025, 9:54 pm

I spent 4k on ammo today. Going back tomorrow to get more and more magazines.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by alexjones » 17 Dec 2025, 10:19 pm

The only way around these laws is to keep guns stored at a dealer and like for like swap them.

Keep 1 of each category and calibre at your address and the rest at a dealer and just keep swapping them over as needed.

Dealers will make a killing in storage fees.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by bigrich » 18 Dec 2025, 4:21 am

alexjones wrote:I spent 4k on ammo today. Going back tomorrow to get more and more magazines.


mate , i don't have a problem with you having 50 guns , but to play devil's advocate , the average citizen would be shocked. i know people who know little or nothing about guns, when i explain to them about different calibres for different uses, they get it. you and i understand that a firearm is a inanimate object, that it takes a human to pull a trigger, that's lost on the average citizen , more guns equals more danger is their mindset . i'm not defending or advocating law changes, but you seem pretty p!ssed off so i thought i'd reach out put a perspective to why the government must act in response to the general populations concerns . i'm not spending any more money on guns until i see concrete detail on changes . thankfully the LNP has only confirmed changes to the number of firearms at this point . i expect guns of the type used a bondi will be banned as well. i've been emailing my local labor MP to voice concerns, i suggest every gun owner do the same . the left have taken over this country cause they make a lot of noise. i suggest every gun owner do the same .

stocking up on ammo , buying more magazines . i probably wouldn't be posting that online, or outspoken "aggressive" political views that could be viewed negatively by authorities , as i think increased scrutiny is coming, especially with regards to posts on the net . that's just a general statement, not a criticism of you personally . cheers
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Die Judicii » 18 Dec 2025, 9:16 am

These terrorists have just proven to the world (and the politicians) that firearm restrictions will not work.

Sure, these ones had firearms and killed in excess of ten people.
But, They also had EXPLOSIVE devices (bombs) as well.

This seems to hardly rate a mention due to all the hype about firearms.
Have the politicians realised that further restrictions on firearms will only see terrorists simply change over to even deadlier weapons.

Next time they wont bother with firearms,,,,, and instead concentrate on bombs,,, and kill hundreds of innocents.

I wouldn't like to be a politician that is responsible for that change of tactics due to firearm restrictions,
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Wapiti » 18 Dec 2025, 12:18 pm

Spot on DJ, but they are masters of spin (lies)
100% they know this, but they treat the electorate, the people, as stupid and inferior to them.
They know its all bullsh*t, more laws against citizens and guns, but because its their failure in leadership
here, they create a diversion the dumb-as -f**k voters fall for ever time.
As does the media, all latte sipping, poison soy milk lapping city university peanuts.
All lifelong-condioned non-achievers.

That's why it's so important to push back. Not look for excuses.
Forget trying to explain why they're wrong (they know that), tell them that if they stab us in the back one more time they'll be out of a job next election.
That's the only thing pretend-fake leaders fear. Their taxpayer funded free ride.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Wapiti » 18 Dec 2025, 12:25 pm

alexjones wrote:I spent 4k on ammo today. Going back tomorrow to get more and more magazines.


Same here dude, I'm unfortunately in Toowoomba today getting the blokes prostate MRI check and I plan to see if I can pick up another mag for the Mrs PB12 whilst I'm here.
Or two.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by No1Mk3 » 18 Dec 2025, 12:32 pm

alexjones wrote:
Terraincognita wrote:Queensland deputy premier says Queensland only signing on for limiting the number of firearms a licensee can own.Didn’t give a number but if this is the only change not a bad result for Queenslanders. But we’ll wait and see.



Not a bad result? I own nearly 50 guns. I am going to get raped here!!!

Lets see if I can move them to my collector licence.

If Collectors Licence is allowed to continue and itself is not brought under the limit of firearms allowed, or worse only permitted for deactivated arms. This is my biggest fear as I have an extensive collection, and have invested a lifetime in it's study.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by alexjones » 18 Dec 2025, 1:16 pm

bigrich wrote:
alexjones wrote:I spent 4k on ammo today. Going back tomorrow to get more and more magazines.


mate , i don't have a problem with you having 50 guns , but to play devil's advocate , the average citizen would be shocked. i know people who know little or nothing about guns, when i explain to them about different calibres for different uses, they get it. you and i understand that a firearm is a inanimate object, that it takes a human to pull a trigger, that's lost on the average citizen , more guns equals more danger is their mindset . i'm not defending or advocating law changes, but you seem pretty p!ssed off so i thought i'd reach out put a perspective to why the government must act in response to the general populations concerns . i'm not spending any more money on guns until i see concrete detail on changes . thankfully the LNP has only confirmed changes to the number of firearms at this point . i expect guns of the type used a bondi will be banned as well. i've been emailing my local labor MP to voice concerns, i suggest every gun owner do the same . the left have taken over this country cause they make a lot of noise. i suggest every gun owner do the same .

stocking up on ammo , buying more magazines . i probably wouldn't be posting that online, or outspoken "aggressive" political views that could be viewed negatively by authorities , as i think increased scrutiny is coming, especially with regards to posts on the net . that's just a general statement, not a criticism of you personally . cheers



Yes mate I am pissed off because I never killed anybody in 1996 and I never killed anybody here but I can see the government is going to steal our guns again.

I am not a dealer so every single gun has a genuine reason that the police approve of.

The public needs to understand what a PTA is.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by alexjones » 18 Dec 2025, 1:17 pm

No1Mk3 wrote:
alexjones wrote:
Terraincognita wrote:Queensland deputy premier says Queensland only signing on for limiting the number of firearms a licensee can own.Didn’t give a number but if this is the only change not a bad result for Queenslanders. But we’ll wait and see.



Not a bad result? I own nearly 50 guns. I am going to get raped here!!!

Lets see if I can move them to my collector licence.

If Collectors Licence is allowed to continue and itself is not brought under the limit of firearms allowed, or worse only permitted for deactivated arms. This is my biggest fear as I have an extensive collection, and have invested a lifetime in it's study.


If they take our collector licence we are f***ed man. I have so much stuff on that collector licence.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by Wapiti » 18 Dec 2025, 4:56 pm

The talk is that collectors will have to make each and every firearm under that licence totally permanently inoperable, done by a licensed armourer only, to specs to be written into some firearms act.
Apparently it's always been a loophole for people to get around the law, and for clever metal tradespeople to reverse.
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Re: Speculating on new firearms laws

Post by knowsnothin » 19 Dec 2025, 7:15 pm

Straight pulls to go.

Sadly this will exclude some of the Anschutz and Blaser firearms
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