Suppressors _ Queensland

[tuknal]

My mate straight across the border into NSW, cannot get consideration to get D category firearms for primary production use.
Primary Producers are, in reality, the first people that should get access, because their circumstances of need are constant, not part time vistors to these issues. Yet we know people in NSW that call themselves "pest shooters" that have had these firearms approved, but are basically part time shooters, who are never there like the farmer is, constantly living the problems. They come and go when it's convenient for their time schedules, while the farmer watches his profits get trashed and has to work all day then run around all night with less suited firearms.

This isn't a shot at the part timers, good for them. It's me having a go at the ridiculous ways the laws are interpreted and applied by people warming seats who have no idea about what goes on in real life. Oh, I've gone camping, or holiday in the regions sometimes, I know about what farmers need.

Just like suppressors, the fact that people on the land basically have to beg and basically put together personal PHD's to prove to have what's basically temporary access to certain firearms that are way in front of what seat warmers think when it comes to what they need for their businesses, decided by beaurocrats pushing city-perverted agendas is just pathetic.

absolutely i agree 100% ,,,,i personally know ppl that do this cos they can (not the youtube part tho)
start a youtube following (not that easy tho) make f all out of it in the start (but hey we,re hunting anyway) then you start to make a income off it(no matter how small then apply for a contract /bussiness cat lic) then you get thermal gear suppliers/firearms dealer up your arse for sales because your getting more popular and they want a piece of the action and wholar a D class/suppressor permit ,,alot harder than it sounds but thats how it works ,,good luck to them but its hardly a genuine reason (is by the rules tho)
but the blokes that can really make some good use out of these items day in day out are struggling to prove their genuine need because the seat warmers cant see their need
didnt edge of the outback say he makes not much out of the actual contract work he does on a Q/A on youtube bit he did,,it just gave him a way to have his toys
no offence to him or others at all is intended but it is what it is ,,promotion and sales

[Wapiti]

I've got no respect for people like that and can't watch them. Simple.
I also cannot understand why people think that anyone is perverted enough to watch videos of their narcissism, killing animals and showing this distasteful practice on Youtube. Yet, the views show that those people are out there, and each view goes to give them more income.
It's all about self-appraisal and self-indulgence by part-timers that are NEVER there when the s**t happens. Amateurs that, with the use of a Go-Pro, make out they are essential tools for the farmer. But, like you say, good luck to them, they are exploiting a system that has big holes in it for those pretenders.
But the people living the crop and stock raiding are not able to get the same gear, or haven't the slimy gift-of-the-gab to jump through the administrative hoops.

Yet then, you have the opposite side of the coin, blokes looking out of their loungeroom and kitchen windows over their crops at animals that just keep coming in and destroying what they are growing, and best they can do is fire one ear-splitting shot from a powerful bolt action rifle for the precision needed and that's it. All the rest bolt, only to come back half an hour later, and on and on it goes.
The poor bloke's working all day, then has to sit up all bloody night, one shot at a time.

And IF they can get a "Pro" out to help them, it costs them more than the pitiful profit their efforts give them from their work. And then there's the wait till the "Pro" can get out there, whilst the destruction goes on.
Then there aren't any guarantees either.

No, the bloke losing his hard work should be the first to be able to get the gear that better stacks the odds in his favour.

[tuknal]

mate i can only half agree with you on this one
yeah they make out like their on some big contract blah blah ,,just remember they make f all in any out of so called contract shooting ,,theyde have to be charging $100ph to any MAKE money and not many are willing to cough that up,,
then on the otherside ,,poor farmer,,sorry but i cant swallow that s**t at all ,,havent seen a broke one yet(only the silly ones) and as soon as they have a problem ,drought/ flood out come the handouts from the government,,i have a lot of farming friends and hear some of the things they get money for,, not all do but stories of ppl getting flood money and their places were never affected ,things like this,,i guess it just shows no matter what walk of life theres always the piss takers,, but this is another topic completely,,
but their are ways to control wildlife be it bait/traps/exclusion fencing all of which at times have grants/incentives for

[Wapiti]

So what are you saying?
We don't need suppressors because we can put up better fencing?
Maybe ask hunters who only come out when they have nothing else they have to do, help us instead?
That farmers don't have a regular disposable income but can tax-deduct business expenses so would be stupid not to?
That they are a business just like one in the city that employs people, buys/repairs/hires people/equipment that is a business expense that without the tax benefit, in this country would just not be able to operate?

Only very rarely, a farmer is able to find some grant for anything like fencing. I can tell you that it's NEVER more than 20% of the total cost of any project. And then it's capped to be way less than that. If you just make enough income to get by, how will you find the money for $20K/km of exclusion fencing? and your boundary alone is 50-150km let along interior paddocks?
Oh yeah, here's a grant for another water tank for your farmhouse, while it's not raining for months so you can't fill it.
Or that the farmer can tax-deduct a new vehicle when the last one shakes itself to bits on his roads that never get repairs by the council, tar and gutters out the front for everyone judging him though? Like the city folk that judge him jealously have?
No different from the 20yo tradie that's buying new gear and vehicles to run his trade business, or any other business in a city people take advantage of.
I could say I am continually amazed by the lack of awareness and the quickness to put down the people who give you places to hunt on. But I'm not. Being a member of a forum like this one is very enlightening.

How about, farmers are the ones copping the crap from feral animals, city based casual hunters aren't. How about we just campaign for ourselves and forget about you lot who think we are ripping off the system? No?
How about we all support one another and don't judge things we don't have the whole story on?