Iran war effects on ammo..

[bigrich]

i agree with deye 243 stock up as much as you can
but the people living week to week hardly give a stuff about ammo prices ,,what youve said is irrelevant to to his comment and whom hes talking about ,,
so what do you come into town from your big farm and walk around town at night looking at peoples houses to make yourself feel better ,,cant be too flat out as a farmer if youve got time for that,, maybe you should be after the ferals that are such a problem

i think you've missed the point
if you are on that tight of a budget your turning your lights of at night to save a dollar (as your mate implied ) whether you shoot or not
ammo prices wouldnt be a priority now would they ,,food and essentials probably would ,,not to mention the fuel to get them out even if they wanted to go hunting
so as i said his point was irrelevant to the comment that was made[/quote]

well that's clarified things a bit better for me on where your coming from in your view , but your previous post didn't really give me that impression , i interpreted it as slanging off at wapiti , when i got what he was saying that people are doing it tuff and ammo affordability matters . if you don't get on with wapiti that's between you two. i just wish things were clearer in meaning , like what you've just posted . maybe i'm just getting soft as i'm getting older

[fnq22]

Hey, big heros, if you don't think I contribute here, or you don't have anything intelligent to say except bitch like sit-to-p*ss girls, have me banned.
Start with the ignore function, then message the Mod that your sorry, contribute SFA fat arses are offended.
I got what I want, the reason why your sport is almost dead.
I dare ya. Hack, spit.

Geez you carry on with some sh!t dont ya... ..Why is it you always seem to take over other peoples threads and make it all about you and your views on everything besides the topic being discussed ..Pretty disrespectful IMO when you are more then welcome to spew your vitriolic poison on your own threads...Lifes too short to listen to narcissistic idiots..

Please put me on your ignore list like you promised when I called you a hobbyfarmer and I'll do the same....

[mchughcb]

This war isn't being fought with small arms or artillery. The price of oil affects all stages of production though.

[mickb]

Prior to covid we could have multiple desert wars running for years without it changing prices much, or even where fuel prices went up, it didnt suddenly mean the cost of everything in life changed. We also had GFC's, entire stock market crashes, trade wars in the western world and again, the effect was usually relating to share prices and super. Every day life items did not budge price wise, often big business took the hit.

Since Covid, it seems anything international now, the major players take advantage and everything from supermarket items, to raw materials, to goods and services goes insane!. The event is one thing, the deliberate gouging is another, and the other glaringly bizarre issue is the prices never retract again. Covid, Ukraine war, trade war with China, now this- money flows continually out of the Middle Class for everything these days. We take all the hit, we pay twice as much at the supermarket and the billionaires keep doubling their money.

[Die Judicii]

Free speech should always be allowed but its till answerable. It can screw things up as much as anything else, it doesnt get a special pass. Same as speaking the truth.

I could stand up in a funeral and say "well that bloke is dead, the autopsy would have cut all his organs out, weighed them, stuffed them back in one blob, and his head wil be full of maggots any day now and I bet his kids are crying hahahah ". All free speech and all true, but not the done thing.

The way the world works is you come to some sort of agreement how to talk to people in a given situation. Thats all we are doing here. We arent making money or curing cancer or putting gun truths on stone tablets for god, we are taling to other shooters and enjoying their company. When it stops getting enjoyable you will have a dead forum.Thats the truth,

Well said Mick,,, Well said.
It's the animosity that really gets to me,,,, simply no real need for it.

[fussy]

For some reason or another if there is a war on in the world it's the Australian government's responsibility to blame it for the cost of everything. Wars can affect powders and other energetics but last time I checked it shouldn't effect insurance

The FTC, Federal Trade Commission in the USA released a report in 2024 saying the top players are now using 'the fog of war" ( quote) to entrench these practices.

And your policies will no doubt have a clause saying that war, acts of God or "Force Majeure" is not covered anyway, but thanks for the money, now go away.

[bigrich]

Free speech should always be allowed but its till answerable. It can screw things up as much as anything else, it doesnt get a special pass. Same as speaking the truth.

I could stand up in a funeral and say "well that bloke is dead, the autopsy would have cut all his organs out, weighed them, stuffed them back in one blob, and his head wil be full of maggots any day now and I bet his kids are crying hahahah ". All free speech and all true, but not the done thing.

The way the world works is you come to some sort of agreement how to talk to people in a given situation. Thats all we are doing here. We arent making money or curing cancer or putting gun truths on stone tablets for god, we are taling to other shooters and enjoying their company. When it stops getting enjoyable you will have a dead forum.Thats the truth,

yeah mate , well said . seems when it comes to the net these days respect and empathy don't exist and some like to rage at others at the drop of a hat . i don't see this behaviour on overseas forums , brits and yanks politely agree to disagree

[bigrich]

Prior to covid we could have multiple desert wars running for years without it changing prices much, or even where fuel prices went up, it didnt suddenly mean the cost of everything in life changed. We also had GFC's, entire stock market crashes, trade wars in the western world and again, the effect was usually relating to share prices and super. Every day life items did not budge price wise, often big business took the hit.

Since Covid, it seems anything international now, the major players take advantage and everything from supermarket items, to raw materials, to goods and services goes insane!. The event is one thing, the deliberate gouging is another, and the other glaringly bizarre issue is the prices never retract again. Covid, Ukraine war, trade war with China, now this- money flows continually out of the Middle Class for everything these days. We take all the hit, we pay twice as much at the supermarket and the billionaires keep doubling their money.

your absolutely right about prices going up since covid and staying up , and everything else you covered in your post . the people of this nation are being price gouged on everything . it's disgusting

[ColdStart]

Prior to covid we could have multiple desert wars running for years without it changing prices much, or even where fuel prices went up, it didnt suddenly mean the cost of everything in life changed. We also had GFC's, entire stock market crashes, trade wars in the western world and again, the effect was usually relating to share prices and super. Every day life items did not budge price wise, often big business took the hit.

Since Covid, it seems anything international now, the major players take advantage and everything from supermarket items, to raw materials, to goods and services goes insane!. The event is one thing, the deliberate gouging is another, and the other glaringly bizarre issue is the prices never retract again. Covid, Ukraine war, trade war with China, now this- money flows continually out of the Middle Class for everything these days. We take all the hit, we pay twice as much at the supermarket and the billionaires keep doubling their money.

your absolutely right about prices going up since covid and staying up , and everything else you covered in your post . the people of this nation are being price gouged on everything . it's disgusting

People of this nation have always been price gouged on most things, Its nothing new, small isolated market.

[wanneroo]

By now it should be clear to folks we are living in some sort of turning or dramatic shift in the world. For the better or for the worse, will shall see but in the meantime when it comes to things like shooting and hunting, my mindset is to prepare for a WW2 level duration of no supplies.

In other words have a 3-5 year supply of what I use on hand and also have a stock of supplies for reloading. Once I had that base established, anytime I would dip into it, I'd try to replace it. When Covid hit, I really didn't have to buy anything for 4 years and only picked up various little bits or bobs here and there. Things were so cheap during the first Trump term I probably bought too much.

There is a little upfront cost of course to establish that, but once you do it's just your regular costs like always and in fact it is better because you have enough supply you can sit on the sidelines and poach any good bulk deals or sales that come along. I haven't checked since Christmas but last year here 9mm dropped below $10 a box for regular target ammo, so even though I don't need any, I bought some anyways.

[bigrich]

Prior to covid we could have multiple desert wars running for years without it changing prices much, or even where fuel prices went up, it didnt suddenly mean the cost of everything in life changed. We also had GFC's, entire stock market crashes, trade wars in the western world and again, the effect was usually relating to share prices and super. Every day life items did not budge price wise, often big business took the hit.

Since Covid, it seems anything international now, the major players take advantage and everything from supermarket items, to raw materials, to goods and services goes insane!. The event is one thing, the deliberate gouging is another, and the other glaringly bizarre issue is the prices never retract again. Covid, Ukraine war, trade war with China, now this- money flows continually out of the Middle Class for everything these days. We take all the hit, we pay twice as much at the supermarket and the billionaires keep doubling their money.

your absolutely right about prices going up since covid and staying up , and everything else you covered in your post . the people of this nation are being price gouged on everything . it's disgusting

People of this nation have always been price gouged on most things, Its nothing new, small isolated market.

as pointed out by others, it's definitely gotten worse since covid, and much more blatant . it's the sort of thing that needs to be investigated

[bigrich]

By now it should be clear to folks we are living in some sort of turning or dramatic shift in the world. For the better or for the worse, will shall see but in the meantime when it comes to things like shooting and hunting, my mindset is to prepare for a WW2 level duration of no supplies.

In other words have a 3-5 year supply of what I use on hand and also have a stock of supplies for reloading. Once I had that base established, anytime I would dip into it, I'd try to replace it. When Covid hit, I really didn't have to buy anything for 4 years and only picked up various little bits or bobs here and there. Things were so cheap during the first Trump term I probably bought too much.

There is a little upfront cost of course to establish that, but once you do it's just your regular costs like always and in fact it is better because you have enough supply you can sit on the sidelines and poach any good bulk deals or sales that come along. I haven't checked since Christmas but last year here 9mm dropped below $10 a box for regular target ammo, so even though I don't need any, I bought some anyways.

yes , my mindset has changed to stocking up . as someone else pointed out , if you stock up now to last a few years you'll save money as in a couple years time those items will be more expensive . i stocked up on projectiles and 22lr ammo for my rifles i use for comps . i'm already stocked up on 223/308 for my hunting needs , but their not too hard to get during tough times anyway

[Damo300]

Prior to covid we could have multiple desert wars running for years without it changing prices much, or even where fuel prices went up, it didnt suddenly mean the cost of everything in life changed. We also had GFC's, entire stock market crashes, trade wars in the western world and again, the effect was usually relating to share prices and super. Every day life items did not budge price wise, often big business took the hit.

Since Covid, it seems anything international now, the major players take advantage and everything from supermarket items, to raw materials, to goods and services goes insane!. The event is one thing, the deliberate gouging is another, and the other glaringly bizarre issue is the prices never retract again. Covid, Ukraine war, trade war with China, now this- money flows continually out of the Middle Class for everything these days. We take all the hit, we pay twice as much at the supermarket and the billionaires keep doubling their money.

your absolutely right about prices going up since covid and staying up , and everything else you covered in your post . the people of this nation are being price gouged on everything . it's disgusting

People of this nation have always been price gouged on most things, Its nothing new, small isolated market.

as pointed out by others, it's definitely gotten worse since covid, and much more blatant . it's the sort of thing that needs to be investigated

Who would do the investigating?

I have no faith in anyone investigating massive fraud.
They somehow always seems to side with the fraudsters, or feel they need to let them go this time.

Money is the devils playing cards.
Unfortunately, there are far to many greedy people still around.