Fuel theft

[Wapiti]

With the huge price increases in liquid fuels it pays to keep your eyes on your supplies, fellas.
I guess in suburbia, it's not that much of an issue with most vehicles having fuel caps that lock when you lock the doors, but the flaps over most fuel caps in modern cars could be opened with a pen knife.
I wonder if the Autobarns and Supercheaps are seeing a run on siphon hoses.

But I had a call from locals that on our road, 30km in from the quiet highway access, two farms now have been raided. With farmers being away from the house doing jobs, it'd be fairly easy. Most still have their on-farm tanks away from terrorist (what we call tourists) gaze from the roads, and unlocked because they still believe in human niceness, so easy prey.
Apparently these scumbags use on-ute and/or in-trailer commercial tanks that every farm has, they rock on up and just steal the fuel and go.

So the warnings out here, people have been ripped off by what might just end up as yabby-cod bait trash, so eyes open.
Shame, the yabbies go off the bite in winter.
A local here who dropped off a delivery to me has now a full tube of 9-pellet buckshot ready, as hes already chased off some grubs doing the scouting run. A worthy load for the shotty, I reckon.

These farmers get screwed by the markets, the government, ignored by law-enforcement and also scorned by pea-brain city-phites for everything they know SFA about... just look back at some of my old posts and see these worms at work following me.
Now, these dogs are wasting fuel, coming way out here to steal that too.

People used to laugh at those old Mad Max films about how fuel was the future gold. Probably the activist scum that those now suffering the results from of their voting mistakes still think this is the case.
We're not laughing.

[mchughcb]

Who are these people that drive to middle of no where to steal fuel? Are they locals?

[bigrich]

fuel deliveries getting a bit risky out your way mate....sorry i couldn't help myself


https://youtu.be/3P4LUt0qcX8?si=UlS70Ert1RjgxT0p

[alexjones]

The mine I use to work at is getting so much diesel stolen. It has a few of these giant 150k litre tanks. People that work there just fill up jerry cans when they go to fill up the work utes and take them back into town.

[mchughcb]

The mine I use to work at is getting so much diesel stolen. It has a few of these giant 150k litre tanks. People that work there just fill up jerry cans when they go to fill up the work utes and take them back into town.

How are they filling up Jerry cans with a fast fill setup?

[Die Judicii]

One of the blokes I shoot for told me last night that his brother just recently had all the diesel stolen from his tractor that was parked less than 100 meters from his house.

Method of operation,,,,,, cordless pistol drill and holesaw and drained (presumably) into an empty pod on a ute or trailer.

Nothing is sacred anymore.

[alexjones]

The mine I use to work at is getting so much diesel stolen. It has a few of these giant 150k litre tanks. People that work there just fill up jerry cans when they go to fill up the work utes and take them back into town.

How are they filling up Jerry cans with a fast fill setup?

Its not fast fill. Its just your normal light vehicle and heavy rigid bowser.

[alexjones]

No more illegal tobacco, we are in the days of illegal fuel.

[Wapiti]

Who are these people that drive to middle of no where to steal fuel? Are they locals?

Yes, all sorts of people from local towns. They know farmers don't "fill up on the way home" and usually have bulk storage.
I have heard of opportunists on the way through though but this is rare.

[Wapiti]

The mine I use to work at is getting so much diesel stolen. It has a few of these giant 150k litre tanks. People that work there just fill up jerry cans when they go to fill up the work utes and take them back into town.

How are they filling up Jerry cans with a fast fill setup?

A lot of places have large tanks with fast fill entry for the tankers, and bowser delivery 240v pumps/handpieces just like servos on long reels. Faster than most servo bowsers too actually.
You can lock them, but these derros have 18V cutting discs or bolt cutters. Some even use sledge hammers.
Fill jerrycans faster than at the servo.
Or they'll have commercial tanks in a trailer or on their ute, like we all have to fuel up in the paddock.

[Wapiti]

fuel deliveries getting a bit risky out your way mate....sorry i couldn't help myself


https://youtu.be/3P4LUt0qcX8?si=UlS70Ert1RjgxT0p

My wife called our usual supplier for top ups, not happening here anymore until this fuel drought is over.
I have to bank on it getting much worse by mid-April.
I just loaded some cattle onto a truck an hour ago, looks like the Easter states are coming into a "super" El Nino drought too.
Just one more issue to prepare for.
Driver reckons they'll probably have to stop delivering cattle to the sale yards soon, they are ringing everywhere to just get enough fuel now.
Most around here have dry dams already, nobody is laughing at us for drilling 3 bores anymore and piping underground to troughs everywhere. More concrete troughs on the way too.

[Die Judicii]

This is how my old man got around the country side during the war when fuel was either non existant or rationed severely.

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[Wapiti]

What the bloomin heck is that contraption on the side mate?
If it's one of those water-fuel things, I don't want to know, people that get engines to run on water tend to die unexpectedly...

[Die Judicii]

LOL,,,, No, it wasn’t running on water. It’s a Gas Producer that my old man built. It prduced gas from the burning of charcoal, and was feeding the bikes motor. Although cumbersome it was very reliable and successful. Certainly saved walking. There is another one that is built on the same principle that is on display in the Truck Museum in Alice Springs. It is mounted in the back of an FC Holden station wagon. I’ve got pics of it, and i’ll see if i can post one.

[Die Judicii]

Correction,,,,,, it wasnt an FC Holden station wagon, but there was one parked alongside.

The station wagon that had the Gas Producer mounted in the back is (I think) an american vehicle.
It has tail lights someting like an HD or HR holden but the rest of the vehicle is,,,,,,, ???
Maybe someone on here could ID its make/origin.

Anyway,,,,, here's the pics of the Gas Producer that kept the thing running.
NOTE the rubberised "fuel tank" mounted up over the roof.
Not sure how the whole kit would pass todays road rules and regulations though,,,,,,,,,,,,

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[Die Judicii]

If you google "Gas Producers for Engines", there is a heap of photos, info on how they work, and a heap of interesting stuff along with the
history of how and where they were used.

[bigrich]

Correction,,,,,, it wasnt an FC Holden station wagon, but there was one parked alongside.

The station wagon that had the Gas Producer mounted in the back is (I think) an american vehicle.
It has tail lights someting like an HD or HR holden but the rest of the vehicle is,,,,,,, ???
Maybe someone on here could ID its make/origin.

Anyway,,,,, here's the pics of the Gas Producer that kept the thing running.
NOTE the rubberised "fuel tank" mounted up over the roof.
Not sure how the whole kit would pass todays road rules and regulations though,,,,,,,,,,,,

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interesting stuff mate , looks a little like victorian era "steam punk" science fiction inventions, especially the bike . at a guess i'd say the station wagon is a american motors "rambler" . rambler was a company owned by AMC , american motors corporation . they sold some vehicles in OZ , the rambler "rebel" model being a full size sedan , this being the wagon version i think . they also sold 2 door sports coupes, the "javelin" being the best known model . it came with a engine option of a 390 ci v8 . i believe they used the same engine in the 1970's jeep cherokee "chief" 4wd wagons . man, i still want one of those . i've seen quite a few of these AMC vehicles around brissy when i was young , their man warehouse and service centre was just off evans road at salisbury

[Damo300]

Correction,,,,,, it wasnt an FC Holden station wagon, but there was one parked alongside.

The station wagon that had the Gas Producer mounted in the back is (I think) an american vehicle.
It has tail lights someting like an HD or HR holden but the rest of the vehicle is,,,,,,, ???
Maybe someone on here could ID its make/origin.

Anyway,,,,, here's the pics of the Gas Producer that kept the thing running.
NOTE the rubberised "fuel tank" mounted up over the roof.
Not sure how the whole kit would pass todays road rules and regulations though,,,,,,,,,,,,

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interesting stuff mate , looks a little like victorian era "steam punk" science fiction inventions, especially the bike . at a guess i'd say the station wagon is a american motors "rambler" . rambler was a company owned by AMC , american motors corporation . they sold some vehicles in OZ , the rambler "rebel" model being a full size sedan , this being the wagon version i think . they also sold 2 door sports coupes, the "javelin" being the best known model . it came with a engine option of a 390 ci v8 . i believe they used the same engine in the 1970's jeep cherokee "chief" 4wd wagons . man, i still want one of those . i've seen quite a few of these AMC vehicles around brissy when i was young , their man warehouse and service centre was just off evans road at salisbury

Can see this is an electric car push, after the idea has been shelved by Toyota.
There's paddocks of electrics in China all parked up because noone wanted them.
Seems Australia is it by the looks of this.
We'll take all your redundant solar farms, now we'll take your redundant cars.
Pitty work won't make me redundant.


My cousin had the Rambler Matador.
It was the luxury sedan.
360ci hemi, leather trim, automatic, ac, steer, electric windows, soft spongy suspension etc.
Almost mistake it for a ZJ fairlane, untill you get close up.
I reckon that may be a wagon version in your pic.
Thing must have weighed 3t...haha.

[Jorlcrin]

If you google "Gas Producers for Engines", there is a heap of photos, info on how they work, and a heap of interesting stuff along with the
history of how and where they were used.

We have a factory-built gas producer sitting down in our retired machinery lineup.
Looks very similar to the one on the Holden in the pic.
Apparently was mounted on the rear bumper of one of the sedans, for travel during petrol rationing.
Nowhere near as much power as supplied by petrol, but made the vehicle dual-fuel, and gave you the option to travel if you needed to.

Hmmm might have to go dust it off and try grafting it onto the overseers mustering motorbike...

[Die Judicii]

Hey Rich, i was thinking possibly Rambler but wasn’t sure. Now that u mentioned it reckon your on the money. One of my old bosses had the luxury sedan model in mint condition jus sitting in his shed. His nephew ended up with it and made it a dedicated drag strip car. The two door models had several versions and one that u didn’t mention was the “Hornet” of which i wanted one but never got, (2 doors in USA and 4 for Aussie). I had a Bathurst HT Monaro at the time.

[bigrich]

Hey Rich, i was thinking possibly Rambler but wasn’t sure. Now that u mentioned it reckon your on the money. One of my old bosses had the luxury sedan model in mint condition jus sitting in his shed. His nephew ended up with it and made it a dedicated drag strip car. The two door models had several versions and one that u didn’t mention was the “Hornet” of which i wanted one but never got. I had a Bathurst HT Monaro at the time.

I reckon you were better off with the Monaro. Easier for parts and the chev small block is a good thing

[Wapiti]

A mate had a 2-door Rambler built up with some whopping stroked V8, the dump pipes were made by an exhaust genius, I never heard a better sound.
Another mate has a 57 Pillarless Chev, it's got very similar dump pipes, incredible. Cops pull him and his missus up just for a look.

Someone gave me a privately published book on water engines, no idea where it is. Methane too. There are some geniuses out there, but history shows making a big deal out of it is a mistake.

[Wapiti]

Word is out though now, our area definitely has some sightseers very interested in slowing down and looking over whatever they can see from the road. Even driving in and driving straight out again.
That doesn't happen with good intent.
Doesn't take long for the oxygen theives to take advantage of a situation does it.

[Die Judicii]

Word is out though now, our area definitely has some sightseers very interested in slowing down and looking over whatever they can see from the road. Even driving in and driving straight out again.
That doesn't happen with good intent.
Doesn't take long for the oxygen theives to take advantage of a situation does it.

Leave a jerry can full of diesel thats been heavily laced with battery acid in a strategic spot. The acid and the water content does wonders for injection pumps. Just don’t make a mistake and use it yourself.

[bigrich]

Word is out though now, our area definitely has some sightseers very interested in slowing down and looking over whatever they can see from the road. Even driving in and driving straight out again.
That doesn't happen with good intent.
Doesn't take long for the oxygen theives to take advantage of a situation does it.

Leave a jerry can full of diesel thats been heavily laced with battery acid in a strategic spot. The acid and the water content does wonders for injection pumps. Just don’t make a mistake and use it yourself.

i like it , thieving crims getting their just deserts . what about good 'ole sugar in the diesel ? i seem to remember this stuff gets into everything and gums it up , needs the fuel lines replaced as well cause it builds up and can't be easily removed

[Wapiti]

Great idea DJ, but somehow, I think my reputation would mean nobody would touch it... and people out here have had cameras that were probably hidden as best as you could hide one of those obvious lumps... so no point having a camera over it either.

On the sugar in fuel... I'm pretty sure I saw a story on YouTube by some bloke who tests out if something is an old wives tale and it appeared so. If my memory served me correctly.

[bigrich]

Great idea DJ, but somehow, I think my reputation would mean nobody would touch it... and people out here have had cameras that were probably hidden as best as you could hide one of those obvious lumps... so no point having a camera over it either.

On the sugar in fuel... I'm pretty sure I saw a story on YouTube by some bloke who tests out if something is an old wives tale and it appeared so. If my memory served me correctly.

so sugar in a diesel doesn't work ? i knew through friends years ago , a heavy tow truck driver who was a real pr!ck . someone sugared the tank on his kenworth and the whole fuel system had to be replaced . cost big dollars . dunno , maybe they dumped a sh!t ton of the stuff in it , or maybe the diesel mechanic didn't like him either and replaced everything to get back at him .

[Wapiti]

I dunno mate, maybe it does.
I'm not into sabotaging stuff, I only saw in online, where most BS and lies are peddled. Not an experiment I'd try.

Every late afternoon now, me and the dogs go for a walk down the driveway to lock the gate. Just so that, if someone's gotten around that, they truly are up to no good.
Early in the morning, we go for another walk and unlock it again. I don't want to be in a position to face violent armed thieves wanting to steal from me.
If they come over or around this gate, they truly mean business.
That would ruin someone's day.