PTA wait times

[Bergararse]

I'm at Day 70 at the moment, what times are people seeing nowadays? Is for a standard 22LR so nothing strange or out there...

[MG5150]

10 days down here in VIc

[Ratsmitglied]

Currently all NSW PTAs are being processed manually because the software wasn't set up to limit numbers, and the legislative changes weren't accompanied with funding to make those changes (and even if it were I doubt any changes would be in as yet, considering how long it's taken to get the system to a vaguely usable state).

So, that being said, I've heard 90 days is about the minimum to expect, but some people's are taking up to 120 days

[Damo300]

Just did one here in QLD.
8 days.

70 is ridiculous.

It's their own fault. They should have predicted the increase in applications with these new "laws".

[Wapiti]

I reapplied for my H renewal the week after the email from Qld WL sent 8 weeks before the due date.
Everything was sent immediately after in PDF, literally 8 emails of supporting info (you need that for PP)
Now it's 16 days since my license expired... and still nothing.

Isn't it unreal that a system THEY made into law, THEY made the system for, that THEY are supposed to run and staff adequately, and that THEY gave 2 months in advance to send the relevant info for, is so behind.
If this was a private business, even without the deliberate tax and red/green/black tape thrown ay you to try and ruin you, they would be out of business.

Apparently with renewals, they are so behind that they do not even look at the renewals until the expiry date, and even later still at that.

[perentie]

I reapplied for my H renewal the week after the email from Qld WL sent 8 weeks before the due date.
Everything was sent immediately after in PDF, literally 8 emails of supporting info (you need that for PP)
Now it's 16 days since my license expired... and still nothing.

Isn't it unreal that a system THEY made into law, THEY made the system for, that THEY are supposed to run and staff adequately, and that THEY gave 2 months in advance to send the relevant info for, is so behind.
If this was a private business, even without the deliberate tax and red/green/black tape thrown ay you to try and ruin you, they would be out of business.

Apparently with renewals, they are so behind that they do not even look at the renewals until the expiry date, and even later still at that.

So what do they do now? Grab your guns because you are unlicensed?
My H expires this year too. In October, may be I should apply for renewal even though they have not sent a notice yet.

[bigrich]

I reapplied for my H renewal the week after the email from Qld WL sent 8 weeks before the due date.
Everything was sent immediately after in PDF, literally 8 emails of supporting info (you need that for PP)
Now it's 16 days since my license expired... and still nothing.

Isn't it unreal that a system THEY made into law, THEY made the system for, that THEY are supposed to run and staff adequately, and that THEY gave 2 months in advance to send the relevant info for, is so behind.
If this was a private business, even without the deliberate tax and red/green/black tape thrown ay you to try and ruin you, they would be out of business.

Apparently with renewals, they are so behind that they do not even look at the renewals until the expiry date, and even later still at that.

I was talking to a knowledgeable RO at the range last week about licence renewals , and he said it doesn't matter how early you put in the application , they don't start processing the application till the license expiry date . your license is still valid for 48 days after the expiry date if i recall correctly . maybe ring WLB for a polite enquiry on how it's going ?

i've had to ring them recently to ask about one of my rifles being shipped interstate for a rebarrel . my local gun shop didn't know with regards to paperwork as it was coming back to them in a different calibre , 270win changed to 7x57. yeah, they (the gun shop) should know it's doable anyway i rang WLB and was very polite and courteous , and found the young ladies who answered my call very helpful , going and asking their supervisor for clarification on the subject . i had to do this twice as my local dealer didn't believe me both times they were very quick and cheerful to help me

on topic , i recently put in a PTA for a savage 23c in 32-20 "pop gun" , and it was approved in 6 days . fastest in quite a few years . years ago i'd had cat A applications approved in 24hrs . anyway it's early and i need another cuppa . just moccona espresso wapiti , cheers

[Wapiti]

I reapplied for my H renewal the week after the email from Qld WL sent 8 weeks before the due date.
Everything was sent immediately after in PDF, literally 8 emails of supporting info (you need that for PP)
Now it's 16 days since my license expired... and still nothing.

Isn't it unreal that a system THEY made into law, THEY made the system for, that THEY are supposed to run and staff adequately, and that THEY gave 2 months in advance to send the relevant info for, is so behind.
If this was a private business, even without the deliberate tax and red/green/black tape thrown ay you to try and ruin you, they would be out of business.

Apparently with renewals, they are so behind that they do not even look at the renewals until the expiry date, and even later still at that.

So what do they do now? Grab your guns because you are unlicensed?
My H expires this year too. In October, may be I should apply for renewal even though they have not sent a notice yet.

I rang them and asked if I had missed anything in my renewal because I sent but a small fraction of what Is collected as far as satisfying the need, and got told that all's there and at the moment as far as renewals go, nothing is looked at until or after the expiry date of the license.
42 days grace is what the bloke said to my phone call. I am always polite and respectful, dealing with the public would be very unrewarding I can imagine.
I'm not being a smart alec, but they give me 42 days "grace" in which I'm still licensed.
That's comforting.
PTA's, big deal. Without the license, things come to a stop.

[bigrich]

I reapplied for my H renewal the week after the email from Qld WL sent 8 weeks before the due date.
Everything was sent immediately after in PDF, literally 8 emails of supporting info (you need that for PP)
Now it's 16 days since my license expired... and still nothing.

Isn't it unreal that a system THEY made into law, THEY made the system for, that THEY are supposed to run and staff adequately, and that THEY gave 2 months in advance to send the relevant info for, is so behind.
If this was a private business, even without the deliberate tax and red/green/black tape thrown ay you to try and ruin you, they would be out of business.

Apparently with renewals, they are so behind that they do not even look at the renewals until the expiry date, and even later still at that.

So what do they do now? Grab your guns because you are unlicensed?
My H expires this year too. In October, may be I should apply for renewal even though they have not sent a notice yet.

I rang them and asked if I had missed anything in my renewal because I sent but a small fraction of what Is collected as far as satisfying the need, and got told that all's there and at the moment as far as renewals go, nothing is looked at until or after the expiry date of the license.
42 days grace is what the bloke said to my phone call. I am always polite and respectful, dealing with the public would be very unrewarding I can imagine.
I'm not being a smart alec, but they give me 42 days "grace" in which I'm still licensed.
That's comforting.
PTA's, big deal. Without the license, things come to a stop.

i don't think you'll have any probs with your renewal as i believe your very meticulous with information and procedure mate . playing the waiting game is the hard part . cheers

[Bugman]

Can't answer for QLD people but my licence renewal came up here in NSW. Send in all the right details etc. No news after 6 weeks.
Rang FAR. All good but I explained thet my licence has now expired. They said that until I got my new licence, my old licence will suffice.
I asked for that in writing (politely). No reply to that request.

[Ratsmitglied]

It's in writing on the page talking about renewals

You must submit your online renewal prior to your firearms licence expiry date. This is necessary so that your authority to possess and use firearms under your current licence will continue, while your renewal is being processed.

and from the regulations - https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis ... 3/s19.html

Pending application for subsequent licence or permit
19 Pending application for subsequent licence or permit

(1) If a person's application for a subsequent licence or permit is made before the person's current licence or permit expires but has not been dealt with before the current licence or permit expires, the authority conferred by the current licence or permit continues until such time as the person is notified of the issue of, or refusal of, the subsequent licence or permit.

(2) If the applicant fails to collect the subsequent licence or permit in accordance with the approved arrangements within 60 days (or such longer period as may be approved in any particular case) of being notified of its issue--

(a) the subsequent licence or permit is taken to have been surrendered by the applicant, and

(b) any authority conferred by the current licence or permit ceases to have effect.

[Wapiti]

I reapplied for my H renewal the week after the email from Qld WL sent 8 weeks before the due date.
Everything was sent immediately after in PDF, literally 8 emails of supporting info (you need that for PP)
Now it's 16 days since my license expired... and still nothing.

Isn't it unreal that a system THEY made into law, THEY made the system for, that THEY are supposed to run and staff adequately, and that THEY gave 2 months in advance to send the relevant info for, is so behind.
If this was a private business, even without the deliberate tax and red/green/black tape thrown ay you to try and ruin you, they would be out of business.

Apparently with renewals, they are so behind that they do not even look at the renewals until the expiry date, and even later still at that.

So what do they do now? Grab your guns because you are unlicensed?
My H expires this year too. In October, may be I should apply for renewal even though they have not sent a notice yet.

I rang them and asked if I had missed anything in my renewal because I sent but a small fraction of what Is collected as far as satisfying the need, and got told that all's there and at the moment as far as renewals go, nothing is looked at until or after the expiry date of the license.
42 days grace is what the bloke said to my phone call. I am always polite and respectful, dealing with the public would be very unrewarding I can imagine.
I'm not being a smart alec, but they give me 42 days "grace" in which I'm still licensed.
That's comforting.
PTA's, big deal. Without the license, things come to a stop.

i don't think you'll have any probs with your renewal as i believe your very meticulous with information and procedure mate . playing the waiting game is the hard part . cheers

Not sure whether I'm looking forward to booking a hotel in inner-city Brisbane... for a few days and eating pub steaks and salad for dinner and perusing all the great tool shops and gun shops down that way... whilst I attend a QCAT hearing. All these things are just another of the experiences life has to offer.
My accountants say it will be a 100% tax deduction!

[Damo300]

Not sure whether I'm looking forward to booking a hotel in inner-city Brisbane... for a few days and eating pub steaks and salad for dinner and perusing all the great tool shops and gun shops down that way... whilst I attend a QCAT hearing. All these things are just another of the experiences life has to offer.
My accountants say it will be a 100% tax deduction!

Sounds terrible.


Be sure to check out this place.
They do an all you can eat.

It's a good feed.

https://www.navala.com.au/


You'll think you're being taken for a ride when you first get there, but if you're still calling them over to your table after an hour, you're an eating machine.

Then go down below and hop on a city cat for a 50c river cruise.
Don't so cities much, but it was a great night out.

[bigrich]

Not sure whether I'm looking forward to booking a hotel in inner-city Brisbane... for a few days and eating pub steaks and salad for dinner and perusing all the great tool shops and gun shops down that way... whilst I attend a QCAT hearing. All these things are just another of the experiences life has to offer.
My accountants say it will be a 100% tax deduction!

yeah , there'd be a bit of culture shock being in the city for a few days compared to being out bush . personally i don't like brisbane city much , and hate all the poser w@nkers down the gold coast ,but sometimes clouds can have a silver lining . a few years back i had planned to go down to melbourne to get around and visit relatives (i'm a 5th generation queenslander , i'll make that clear ), anyway i had a argument with my sister , who i was going to stay with out at laurimar , i ended up staying at the mercure hotel in the heart of melbournes china town . one of the best things i did . went to the melbourne museum and art gallery , saw some great blues music at byrd's basement venue , and ate some great chinese food . i was suprised when i asked for help how many young chinese australians were willing to help . real "straylan" accents too i also found melbournes bus and tram network really cheap and easy to get around . caught up with my relatives and it ended up being a great experience and trip . maybe when in brissy have a look in at the museum , be lots of stuff of interest . including the only german WW1 tank in existence , "mephisto" brought back by aussie troops . do some googling on what's to do in brisbane if you have to come in . hell , i'm half hour south down the M1 from brissy , pop in mate . when in the city there's certain pubs in the valley to stay out of . strange ladies with big shoulders and deep voices the world we live in hey cheers

[Bugman]

It's in writing on the page talking about renewals

You must submit your online renewal prior to your firearms licence expiry date. This is necessary so that your authority to possess and use firearms under your current licence will continue, while your renewal is being processed.

and from the regulations - https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis ... 3/s19.html

Pending application for subsequent licence or permit
19 Pending application for subsequent licence or permit

(1) If a person's application for a subsequent licence or permit is made before the person's current licence or permit expires but has not been dealt with before the current licence or permit expires, the authority conferred by the current licence or permit continues until such time as the person is notified of the issue of, or refusal of, the subsequent licence or permit.

(2) If the applicant fails to collect the subsequent licence or permit in accordance with the approved arrangements within 60 days (or such longer period as may be approved in any particular case) of being notified of its issue--

(a) the subsequent licence or permit is taken to have been surrendered by the applicant, and

(b) any authority conferred by the current licence or permit ceases to have effect.

I was being a bit facetious (cheeky) in asking for it in writing. I already knew what the regulations were.

[Fester]

Funny how when THEY try it on LAFOs that may be old or have a disability pension, a doctor's letter that answers all their questions must be submitted within the weeks they demand, or the discrimination victim will have his license and guns taken immediately.

Yet they can't even issue a PTA within 3 months.

I was not silly and applied, and received one within days of Bondi.
It will expire, so I best get another one onto the waiting list.

It's just because I will replace the 2 low power fun action guns with a high-power sniper rifle in spite.
I don't have the safe room, until the 2 stolen guns are gone, but no good finding a good buy with no PTA.

[alexjones]

I reapplied for my H renewal the week after the email from Qld WL sent 8 weeks before the due date.
Everything was sent immediately after in PDF, literally 8 emails of supporting info (you need that for PP)
Now it's 16 days since my license expired... and still nothing.

Isn't it unreal that a system THEY made into law, THEY made the system for, that THEY are supposed to run and staff adequately, and that THEY gave 2 months in advance to send the relevant info for, is so behind.
If this was a private business, even without the deliberate tax and red/green/black tape thrown ay you to try and ruin you, they would be out of business.

Apparently with renewals, they are so behind that they do not even look at the renewals until the expiry date, and even later still at that.

So what do they do now? Grab your guns because you are unlicensed?
My H expires this year too. In October, may be I should apply for renewal even though they have not sent a notice yet.

I rang them and asked if I had missed anything in my renewal because I sent but a small fraction of what Is collected as far as satisfying the need, and got told that all's there and at the moment as far as renewals go, nothing is looked at until or after the expiry date of the license.
42 days grace is what the bloke said to my phone call. I am always polite and respectful, dealing with the public would be very unrewarding I can imagine.
I'm not being a smart alec, but they give me 42 days "grace" in which I'm still licensed.
That's comforting.
PTA's, big deal. Without the license, things come to a stop.

They did not give you 42 days grace, the law did. Read the weapons act. A QLD licence sent for renewal is valid for up to 42 days after the expiry date, or until a decision is made (whichever comes first).

The annoying part is trying to buy ammo. You have to show the shop you sent your renewal in.

[alexjones]

The only reason I can think of why they chose 42 days is because 42/7 = 6 weeks.