I was wrong again.

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I was wrong again.

Post by Wapiti » 05 Jul 2026, 7:25 pm

Sooo... maybe some of you remember how there was a discussion here about some of those Turkish push-button 223's that mysteriously "doubled" or even tripled? Went on a satanic automatic fire episode from time to time?
Well I also remember how skeptical I was, after playing with one of those pieces of junk that was back in for a warranty claim for the very same reason? And how the el-cheapo plastic trigger-group and stamped bits mechanism just did not look like that was possible?

Well, I had no intention of buying a 223 for what I do, but I did buy a cheap Buckmaster shotgun... And my wife bought the magazine fed version... just in case there were some large feral animals that had learned to sneak around the farmhouses here at night. Wanting a cheap throw-away shotgun rather than have the proper stuff confiscated afterwards. I'm sure you get what I mean.
Well I decided that I wanted to throw away the crappy black stock that mine came out with, and replace it with another Buckmaster PB12 stock, the fake walnut lookalike one. No, don't ask why.
So the dealer grabbed what we were told was the last set available, and out it came. First issue was the price... $400 dollars. First punch in the face. Oh well, I never asked what the price was.
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Good bit was, it was screwed straight off a gun at the importers, so it has the rear stock bolt in it, and was fully kitted out up front with the fittings including the press-mechanism too. So I had a spare everything.
Second issue, when I finally decided to fit it was when I tested it. All seven shells of buckshot in what I recon was less than one second.
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I had a look at the forend press-release, and it wasn't catching properly. Well, it was, momentarily it seemed. What was happening was, it WAS catching, just long enough for the hammer not to ride the bolt home, but rather it was tripping the hammer to drop just the instant the bolt shut fully. Even with my thumb off it. Maybe vibration, maybe a tiny evil troll sitting in there doing it. I could not actually see why.
So, out with the screwdriver and I swapped the press mechanism from the black stock it came out with.
Anyway, with the original forend mechanism taken out and swapped in the "new" fake wood stock, now it's back to normal.
I will be sending the other mechanism in to town to have it exorcised, so whatever demon is doing it is sent back to hell.

For those of you who reckon that would be great, no it's not. Buckshot is expensive, and shooting up at clouds doesn't get the job done.
"The only way to avoid criticism is to do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing."
Aristotle.
Regards G,
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Re: I was wrong again.

Post by Damo300 » 05 Jul 2026, 8:30 pm

I love my PB12.
Such a joy to shoot. Be better without the button, but I'm not complaining.

Interesting to find out what's going on with that button. Keep us posted, or send a pm if you don't want to make it public.
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Re: I was wrong again.

Post by Wapiti » 05 Jul 2026, 9:44 pm

There's not really much going on Damo, I haven't really diagnosed the actual reason why, possibly a radiused edge just holding until shocked by the bolt slamming home, or even possibly the suspected troll inside levering the catch at just the right moment.
I'm just glad I had a working mechanism in the old stock that had somehow been blessed.

In town here there have been a number of returned-for-warranty Chimeras and Buckmasters, one 223 with a spiral-cut chamber, one 223 that blows every second primer of any ammo fed it, two cases now of doubling/tripling of cartridges (not including mine).
I suspect the only reason more haven't been reported is that the shop selling them stopped doing it, because it was sick of the irate customers - that's what they told me anyway - two of whom have such a high profile and good reputations here that their complaints and the time it took them to finally get something done spread and the desire to buy them died before Mr. Albanese made Customs stop allowing them in.

My wife's PB12-M is a great gun though, very nice to use and with the 16" barrel is such a shorty. No good for clays except for giving the Fudds heart attacks, but it won't be doing that ever. It's for those nasty feral animals considering remote property home invasions to steal the dogs tucker I spose.
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Re: I was wrong again.

Post by Damo300 » 06 Jul 2026, 2:26 am

Well I'll keep an eye on mine then.


If you go to shoot some clays at all, I know you said you won't, but if you do, the 1280s won't reset the bolt, even with a new o'ring and gas ports all cleared.
1320s, no problems.
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