Lever Action Shotguns to be reclassified

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Lever Action Shotguns to be reclassified

Post by FuzzyM » 13 Jul 2015, 5:15 pm

Sorry to bring the bad news.
Looks like the Adler is going to be made a cat D... :evil:

http://ssaasa.org.au/national-agreement ... -shotguns/
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Re: Lever Action Shotguns to be reclassified

Post by KWhorenet » 13 Jul 2015, 5:20 pm

Is this guy by name and nature

David Handyside, President, SSAA(SA)inc.

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So do you think this means back to the design stage for the mag tube? Simple enough. make a 5 shot. Fine.
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Re: Lever Action Shotguns to be reclassified

Post by FuzzyM » 13 Jul 2015, 5:26 pm

Don't forget the chiappa, etc, copies of the WInchester 1887 that are already out there.
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Post by KWhorenet » 13 Jul 2015, 5:45 pm

Forget CRAPIAS and EYE-ACHES? I never had them in mind to remember or forget anyway. Fugliest POS I ever saw haha
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Post by Browning » 13 Jul 2015, 6:41 pm

Makes you wonder then why a pump action shotty with 5 in the tube can't be a Cat B or why Rem pump action centre fire with 10 round mag is still on Cat B...
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Post by brett1868 » 13 Jul 2015, 6:53 pm

Chiappa are already 5 shot so no change in category, all I can see happening is that the Adler will shorten the mag and we'll still get them.
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Post by pajamatime » 13 Jul 2015, 6:57 pm

so essentially they met in the middle, we can still own a lever action but if its over 5 rounds we need a cat D licence? I really can't understand why instead of C category it got moved to a D category though? I'm stumped at that logic. But the whole thing from start to finish stank of illogical anyways lol.

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Post by Chronos » 13 Jul 2015, 7:04 pm

FuzzyM wrote:Don't forget the chiappa, etc, copies of the WInchester 1887 that are already out there.


And mag extensions that take them over 5 rounds are akreaduly banned if cat A in nsw. Can't George anyone ever thought they'd get a 7 round Adler in NSW

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Post by Franky » 13 Jul 2015, 7:24 pm

But serious who cares about Victoria or N.S.W ???
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Post by Oldbloke » 13 Jul 2015, 8:44 pm

5 shot cat b makes sense to me, will not effect most users. But as mentioned earlier cat d seems illogical, way over the top. cat c for more than 5 rounds would seem sensible.
And, yea, why did I lose my 4 shot 12g pump? As usual the law is an ass.
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Post by Seik » 16 Jul 2015, 3:42 pm

And pulled out of one :thumbsdown:
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Post by 1290 » 16 Jul 2015, 4:22 pm

brett1868 wrote:Chiappa are already 5 shot so no change in category, all I can see happening is that the Adler will shorten the mag and we'll still get them.


The clappy and eye aye see are 5 + 2 = 7.....(but dont tell anyone)
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Post by bigfellascott » 16 Jul 2015, 4:36 pm

All because Man Monis used a shotgun to commit his suicide with. :unknown: The gov't has got to be seen to be doing something about it and I guess this is their idea of doing something about it? :roll:
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Post by C.West » 16 Jul 2015, 8:36 pm

Excellent posts!
But, remember it was only an agreement in principle: Lever action shotguns: 5 shot- Cat B, 7 shot- Cat D
It effectively means nothing in real terms.
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As I said earlier, don't expect feedback. Then, out of the blue a supposed 'in principle agreement from Firearms Registry (not worth the paper its written on)
Individual states such as Vic, Canberra -can torpedo the process.
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Post by Panthum » 17 Jul 2015, 10:15 am

bigfellascott wrote:All because Man Monis used a shotgun to commit his suicide with.

Wasn't it determined that it was the police that killed one of the 2 hostages? I'm not 100% but honestly, telling us about responsible use of firearms...
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Post by KWhorenet » 18 Jul 2015, 2:00 am

Panthum wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:All because Man Monis used a shotgun to commit his suicide with.

Wasn't it determined that it was the police that killed one of the 2 hostages? I'm not 100% but honestly, telling us about responsible use of firearms...


You are correct.
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Post by Seik » 20 Jul 2015, 11:55 am

Panthum wrote: Wasn't it determined that it was the police that killed one of the 2 hostages? I'm not 100% but honestly, telling us about responsible use of firearms...


Police bullet ricochet they said.
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Post by 1290 » 20 Jul 2015, 1:13 pm

it was reported as 6 fragment OR bullets were found in the secon victim......you know you'll never hear the full story in the me-dia.........

as I recall it was something like 22 shots fired total, 13 'found' in monis......leaves 8 :huh: did I mention 6 fragments OR bullet in the other victim??
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